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Reader comment on item: Musharraf's Historic Speech

Submitted by adnan (United States), Nov 8, 2005 at 15:33

It is surprising to see how faults and mistakes here are being magnifed and attempts to bring peace are being flavoured with suspicions. I am somewhat amused to read how third party by-standers are jumping in just to create an environment of hatred and monkey voicing not for any other reason but to distract serious minded people from the main issue- muslim jew friendship.
At this time I would not like to go in the faith details and show our polytheist frinds the common grounds between jews and muslims.

At this moment I will like to present some lines ( with analysis) from one P.C. Tripathi.
September 24, 2005 at 21:43

"Dear Daniel
Your comments on terror war and consequent examination of Islams relationship with other faith always provide compelling reading material. I , being an Indian( a Hindu incidently, in context of your article but irrelevant otherwise) , was amused at what you wrote and readers reaction to your views on Musharraf's historic speech.

Comment: PC instantly himself/herself sides with the anti islam or musharraf or pakistani philosophy. Once a person sees the world with a prejudiced eye, the goods are turned into bad.
Tripathi is amused to read the analysis about musharraf's speech. :)) smiles

"
To say the least, I must say ...the shocking ignorance of west about the Pakistani establishment and Musharraf, who today leads it. The agile and artful commando of realpolitik that Musharraf has tranformed himself into since Sept 11 2001 will make a fascinating story but that's beside the question here"

Comment: PCT further admits his/her hatred about pakistan

P.C. Tripathi "What is important is to note that the change of heart diplayed by the Pak President before the World Jewry Coucil is one of the many tactical sommersaults he continuously performs before his western benefactors. Look at his track record during past four years. It is littered with lofty promises that he never intended to fulfill. He continues to nurture Jihadi's against India depite countless promises to the contrary".

Comment: We finally have a wizard who can look into the heart of people and KNOW whether the person is lying or is seriously attempting to bridge gaps. Isnt God ( according the divine faiths like Christianity, Judaism and Islam) the one who knows whats going on in the hearts?. Why are people so anxious to see war. I think it is time when we should all condemn extremism. Hitler( ? /germany), Osama (muslim / afghanistan), Balthakray(Indian/ Hindu) they all belong to the same clan- cynically narrowminded. If Musharraf fails to keep his promises 100 percent with india, shouldnt we appreciate that 80 or 70 nor 50 0r even 5% of his promises that he kept. Why cant we help him or men like him to keep promises cent percently. It is easier to criticise and vomit out inheritied hatred rather than to flick off the evil spirit from oneself.

P.C. Tripathi " ... Indians and particularly record of Hindus in tolerance and accomodation of Jews has a history that is shining proof of centuries old values of our great culture. Let me assure all those like Ari Jacob that Hindus hate none because they are fundamentally incapable of hatred."

Comments " I am sorry to bring this very painful fact and i request my all hindu brothers and sisters to forgive me for all the pain, shock and anger which my following words are going to casue. But this is just for the correction of records.
.. like Ari Jacob that hindus hate none because they are fundamentally incapable of hatred. I must say that this is the greatest of all lies. What to say of others but hindus hate their own faith followers. No cult other than hinduism has a developed, accepted , praised and practised system of caste superiority. Four major caste systems where one child is superior by virtue of his birth over an innocent child belonging to other caste is the hallmark of hindu religion and no one else. One may bring out the differences between muslims of different sects like sunnis and shias and so on or of protestants , mormons orthodox in christianity or even like orthodox or moderates in judaism but in latter case the difference is of philosophy and not superiority by birth. In cases where someone decides to change his or her sect or even religion, all these faiths embrace the incoming person and is given equal status. But a superior hindu born will remain superior regardless of his deeds. So my dear the hatred in inbuilt in hinduism and therefore please dont try to paint it pink while its all purple.

Thousands of muslims had been massacred in gujrat in the reign of BJP ( another example of extremism in india. Bharatya janata party ruled the democratic india while it openly hated all other religions. But india has two faces one for the outer world and one for its minorities. I am sorry to say that since the so called awared world has a lot of financial concerns and lures for and by india hence they tend to ignore the realities at grass root level. But the truth is evident from the deaths of muslims and christians who have been massacred in India. Yes true , enquiry commissions have been set and the culprits have been said to be booked but again we can see a pattern of hatred.

These comments were made just to share that every religion or faith is void of hatred against humanity. This is politics and greed and as I earlier said, acquired prejudice which keeps us from embracing the less favoured of the world.

In the end I request all to please allow your breasts to breed hope and goodwishes. Let us help the 5% to accomplish 100%. Let us love all ignoring the religious bindings. India , mr tripathi is mine as pakistan is yours. Israel is as much mine as pakistan is your daniel and all. With you tripathi and daniel one day we will defeat the extremism every where. Alquds is ours. It is God's . We submit to God and so do you. H2O is water for you and paani for me,, just different name but the formula is the same. Should we hate eath other for using different set of alphabets? or languages?
I wish not
Thanks Tripathi for being optimist at last and so am I
and so are we all I believe
adnan

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PatSep 20, 2005 16:17
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