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Old Civilizations are not conjured away! Persia and the "Desert Hordes"

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 23, 2021 at 06:31

You wrote:

> if in tackling the former Medo-Persian empire, the Islamic hordes met their match and the sons of Ishmael were subsumed by the Magi of Babylonian mysticism.

You can check my posts here at danielpipes.org about the Greek Persian war of 614-627 AD and Qur'an 30:1

The very smart Persians and their Shahanshah and their Mobeds (Zoroastrian clerics) created what was to become Islam! Remember the old saying, and I'm paraphrasing, if you can't beat them join them, and this is indeed what happened. The Iranian Shahanshah became al-Khalifa (eg: al-Khalifa al-Ma'moon) and the Mobeds became al-Mufasereen wa al-Muarikheen wa Ahl al-Nahw wa al-'Ulama and these were the people that created what Islam is all about but also the Arabic language. Even the Arabic sciences, philosophy and medicine were clearly the products of the Iranian minds and not the Arabs

Here is an interesting example: As I mentioned before, the Arabic language alphabet was supposed to be 22 letters following the Aramaic/Syriac alphabet. It was Ahl al-Nahw (grammarians) in Iran and not al-Hijaz that expanded the alphabet to 28 letters. They really "created" the Arabic language

Without Iran and its people there would have been no Islamic civilization as we know it.

However, secular Iranian literature the likes of Ferdawsi's Shahnemah is what saved the Iranian language and therefore Iranian civilization, from being another victim of Arabization

The Arabs never trusted the Iranians and regarded them as not trustworthy. And the Persians never liked the Arabs and regarded the Arab culture as far inferior to the Iranian culture. They also never forgiven the Arabs for their invasion of Persia.

BTW: Some historians now believe that the Arab invasion of Persia must have started in 627 AD and not in the 630's AD

Last, When Mohammad Khatami the president of Iran gave a speech at the UN in the late 1990's, he started his speech not by some Quranic verses but by verses from the Shahnemah. This speaks volumes about what Iran and Iranians and their civilization are all about.

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