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Israel-Palestine Civil War in the Context of (1) 9-11, (2) Atab Spring, (3) ISIS

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Submitted by Robert (United States), Sep 2, 2018 at 13:18

Dear Daniel Pipes,

As I've argued elsewhere,Israel has been in a state of Civil War at least since its Independence in 1948. It still has no defined Borders, but merely Armistice Lines from which it has withdrew - in conformity to Security Council Resolution 242, by implementing the terms of the Oslo Accord(s).

Your continuous and contentious use of the metaphorical "victory," which unfortunately connotes a state of war and belligerency between or among Soverign States obscures the reality that Israel is engaged in a Civil War against the rebellious Arabs within the territories of the former Palestine Mandate which the British famously abandoned to the fate of its inhabitants. Furthermore, as you well know, the so-called Partician Plan over Palestine was merely a recommendation of the General Assembly because only the Security Council has the power to pass a Resolution that carries the force of International Law.

I further think you under-estimate President Trump's consistent ability to stick to his positions. Accordingly, you overlook the fact that he has stated that he will support whatever both parties support. Thus he will not force as position on Netanyahu - as Obama has done to the satisfaction of liberal Jews in America (as opposed to the Orthodox like his inner circle,including his beloved daughter and her husband), for one.

On the issue of Jerusalem, as you know the "Palestinians" already have a foothold there by way of Jordan.If Trump does anything regarding Jerusalem, it will only be what Netanyahu and the Jordanian King are willing to accept. And Abba Eban was correct - Abbas has already shot himself in his foot by refusing to participate, a move which the Deal Maker Donald will delightfully take advantage of (just as he most cleverly acquired his Florida beach front estate against the wishes of the heiress who refused to sell to him after former President ("Apartheid") Carter rejected it as a summer home for American Presidents.

Regarding President Trump's policy on "Palestine" I think you aren't giving sufficient weight to the conditions, as the saying goes,"on the ground." The split between Gaza and the West Bank along the political divide between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority will serve,at best, to effect a 3 "state" solution. And the building of an Airport and Sea Port in Gaza will effectively deprive the Palestinians of a land lick in the Negev! Furthermore, Abbas has recently reportedly renounced his need for a Military,wishing only a Police force - which he already has as a consequence of the Oslo Accords.

Like I said elsewhere, the only unknown is the expansion of Jews living in Judea and Samaria which to the non-Jews is known as the West Bank. However, as I've explained elsewhere,this isn't "Occupation," but Jews exercising their Civil Rights in the former territories of Mandatory Palestine which are legally consistent with the terms of the United Nations as successor to the League of Nations.

So I do not see any danger from. Perhaps I should remind you of his appointment of Orthodox Jew Greenblatt to formulate and executed Trump's "Deal of the Century"? Greenblatt not only was Trump's loyal Bankruptcy lawyer,but he is also known to be a financial supporter of Jewish Settlements in the West Bank.

Unlike you, I predict that Trump will the most for Israel - and the very things that Netanyahu cannot possibly do: "defeat" Israel's Archenemy, Iran, get Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, Jordan, and Russia in Syria, to accomplish things favorable to Israel and against its Arab Muslim adversaries, particularly the Palestinians,including terminating their so-called "Right of Return," which has already happened yesterday,when the Administration terminated the financing that UN body's (I've momentarily forgotten the Acronym for it) largest financial contributions. Thank you President Trump.


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1All Refugees Want (1) Homes and (2) Jobs - Great Opportunity for Businesses (Clue?) [196 words]
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RobertOct 21, 2018 12:39245612
2Israel-Palestine Civil War in the Context of (1) 9-11, (2) Atab Spring, (3) ISIS [625 words]RobertSep 2, 2018 13:18244574
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1Continuation: More Of The Same [83 words]DajjalJun 6, 2018 06:03243164
2Turf 'Em! [30 words]UNCLE VLADDIJun 6, 2018 19:46243164
1Insufficient Displacement [17 words]DajjalJun 7, 2018 18:42243164
2So What? We All Do It, Too! Whee! [21 words]UNCLE VLADDIJun 8, 2018 21:19243164
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1Gaza is not the issue! [47 words]DajjalJun 11, 2018 19:15243164
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Sometimes; Praying IS the Doing..... [227 words]M ToveyJun 18, 2018 11:06243164
Daniel Pipes is right [114 words]Mladen AndrijasevicMay 31, 2018 12:28243134
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1Trump has a plan? [21 words]TRMMay 27, 2018 12:34243096
1Daniel, excellent, but... [77 words]Gary SackMay 27, 2018 09:49243093

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