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Reader comment on item: The US-Israel Honeymoon May Not Last

Submitted by Ludvikus (United States), Aug 23, 2018 at 10:14

Dear Daniel Pipes,

I believe you don't understand President Trump
because of his style of speech and writing;
he doesn't communicate like Obama.
But he calls the Media Fake - because he himself is the Master of Spin.
For example, when he says that under him they'll get more than under Obama
he effectively means that what he'll give will be by definition more.
Giuliani I think is one of the few people who understands Trump.

Here are the issues and Trump's prospective positions as I see it.

(1) Right of Return.None for Palestinians,because Israel is a Jewish State
and Palestinians want Palestine.

(2) Borders. Israel wants nothing to do with Gaza.And 100% of the West Bank to Israel
would mean making Israel less Jewish over the current 20%.
Jerusalem is already part of Jewish Israel, and Palestinians will be required to settle
for a prospective capital in the suburbs of Jerusalem.

(3) Security requires a current military and police arrangement in favor of Israel.

(4) Hamas in Gaza and Fatah in the West Bank are irreconcilably divided.
So Arab Muslim Cairo wills peak for it,
while Abbas will reject everything always
(Eban:"Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.").

President Trump isn't biased in favor of Israel;
rather he believes that Israelis right.
By compromise, in the case of Israel,
he means those Israelis
who do not see the benefits of disentanglement from the Palestinians
which he wishes to engineer.

And Trump isn't less persistent,or stubborn, than Abbas.

Furthermore,Trump will not impose terms on Netanyahu.
The fact that Abbas has dropped out
means that terms will only need to be palatable to Bibi.
But Bibi holds a coalition government
with Jewish maximalists included.
So Trump, as the American President can support Bibi
against the minority religious extremists within his coalition.
I assume that these minority parties
believe that G-d will solve the demographic dilemma
in the case of a one-state solution.

In brief, by "the price that Israel must pay for Jerusalem"
I believe Trump means the extremists within Bibi's coalition
who blindly or divinely deny
the unresolved Palestinian Arab Muslim threat since 1948.
Trump will likely pressure Saudis,Egyptians, and Jordanians
to accept his terms as overseen by his Orthodox Jewish team
headed by his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, etc.
Orthodox Jews,unlike the Conservative and Reform, support Israel and its government.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
1Trump: "No more Palestinian aid unless they make a deal with Israel" [116 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
RobertSep 6, 2018 18:06244733
Confederation - of Four (4); Israel, Jordan, West Bank, & Gaza [607 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
RobertSep 6, 2018 11:00244724
1"Trump cuts $200 million in aid to Palestinians" - US-Israel Honeymoon Continues [286 words]LudvikusAug 24, 2018 22:36244381
1Truth Isn't Truth [392 words]LudvikusAug 23, 2018 10:14244363
Israel's Security vs Trump's Narcissism [124 words]DaveMay 7, 2018 11:15242892
Israel's Security is Guaranteed; Very Few Understand that; Especially Those with Unguarded Egos. [183 words]M ToveyMay 8, 2018 15:35242892
Now That Did Not Take Long, Did It? [135 words]M ToveyMay 10, 2018 15:48242892
1Spinning The Two-State Solution [102 words]John GlueckMar 21, 2018 21:54242533
1Imperceptible Paradigm Shift in Middle East, Coming from the North [291 words]M ToveyMar 21, 2018 15:42242530
Why Does UNRWA Still Exists? [97 words]Jonathan PMar 20, 2018 14:05242522
THE anti-Israel Isabel Keshner of The New York Times still denying Istraeli Sovereignty [398 words]LudvikusMar 8, 2018 15:03242441
4If Jerusalem is not Jewish, Mecca is not Muslim [128 words]PrashantMar 10, 2018 09:12242441
Trump and Israel [127 words]Reynald de ChatillonMar 3, 2018 23:21242407
Color me skeptical regarding an upcoming rift [79 words]AnonFeb 28, 2018 17:21242390
Your article "The US-Israel Honeymoon May Not Last" [933 words]Louis A. RomoFeb 20, 2018 11:11242323
The US-Israel Honeymoon May Not Last [135 words]Kevin McCoyFeb 18, 2018 01:29242288
President Trump's Pragmatic Approach [209 words]David FaulknerFeb 15, 2018 11:51242249
Israel and the Empires: 3000 years experience. [344 words]JackFeb 15, 2018 04:01242243
1Your assessment of "Quasi-Jewish" President Trump & friend of Bibi is mistaken. [381 words]LudvikusFeb 13, 2018 14:20242212
It's beginning to look like you called it right again... [1 words]LeslieFeb 9, 2018 17:24242156
What's bigger than Jerusalem? [257 words]Joseph ShellimFeb 9, 2018 01:19242144
Disagree [104 words]AlexFeb 8, 2018 17:19242134
There are NO Honeymoons in Shotgun Marriages [554 words]M ToveyFeb 12, 2018 16:57242134
1Subterfuge At It's Best [81 words]Barry BlackFeb 7, 2018 10:55242124
1Since the Arab-Palestinians are inciting to commit terror and violence [195 words]YJ DraimanFeb 7, 2018 05:13242121
There is no chance of Trump rescinding his declaration [141 words]AnonFeb 6, 2018 20:15242117
Not Solved in Any Meaning of the Word Peace; Not all Want Peace For Jerusalem [170 words]M ToveyFeb 6, 2018 17:03242112
Roe v. Wade [31 words]PAUL ROTHBERGFeb 6, 2018 13:44242109
Do'nt worry [196 words]Lars NielsenFeb 6, 2018 13:28242108
The script [237 words]Michael SFeb 7, 2018 12:40242108
1It All Depends On Trump's Emotional Reactions [184 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
DaveFeb 6, 2018 11:04242106
Confirmed assessment. [38 words]s.LevyFeb 6, 2018 10:33242103
Nobody, Including Trump, Thinks the Issue of Jerusalem is "Solved" [130 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
StuartFeb 6, 2018 07:45242100
Trump Between the Lines [45 words]Barry BlackFeb 7, 2018 11:04242100

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