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Finally an argument that is not absurd

Reader comment on item: Interview: U.S. Embassy Move May Bring Regrets
in response to reader comment: Israeli victory

Submitted by Prashant, Jul 9, 2018 at 20:51

Dear Dr Pipes,
I am finally happy to hear an argument from your reader Debanjan Banerjee that is not absurd. Mr Banerjee hypothesizes that the Palestinians have not lost to Israel because 'they have nothing to lose in the process' and he goes on to say that '..by harshly punishing the Gazan people, Israel has destroyed the Gazans' fear of death.'.

Though Mr Banerjee is not absurd this time, he is still only partly correct. I agree with Mr Banerjee that Palestinians do not fear death but I disagree with him when he says that harsh punishment by Israel has destroyed Palestinian fear of death.

To the best of my knowledge Israel never punished Kashmiri people and a lot of Kashmiri people also do not have much fear of death. Mr Banerjee might say that Kashmiri people have been harshly punished by Indian security forces but that will also be wrong. Our ISIS friends in Syria, Talebani friends in Afghanistan, Al Qaeda friends in KSA, Boko haram brothers in Nigeria constitute other examples of people who have no fear of death and who have not been punished harshly in the recent times by any one. It is not just that. Muhammad Ghouri attacked India 13 times. He lost first 12 times but won the 13th time. It will be fair to conclude that Muhammad Ghouri also had no fear of death and unless you equate 12 foiled instances of aggressions to 'harsh punishments', I do not think Ghouri was harshly punished by Indians or any one else.

I will give Mr Banerjee an alternative line of thought. Would Mr Banerjee consider that a larger faction of Islamic people harbor a violence-prone culture. To these people killing and being killed for the sake of Islam is like a sacred service and it is due to this that many Islamic societies are more war-prone than non-Muslim societies. When a person dies in a war, he or she is not the only sufferer. In all cases of a young person's death tens of people around him suffer for many years. A young person's death starts a cycle of poverty, pain, illiteracy and exploitation in the lives of all affected people. I think this is what is going on in lots of Islamic societies for a very long time. The wounds that Mr Banerjee sees 'as harsh punishment by Israel' in many cases are self inflicted.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
1Make No Mistake; The American Embassy in Jerusalem was No Mistake... [279 words]M ToveyJun 21, 2018 11:16243377
1Leaving the UN. [73 words]Reynald de ChatillonJun 22, 2018 02:28243377
2Moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem [251 words]There is NO Santa ClausJun 17, 2018 12:05243305
The right thing to do [136 words]Phil MondJun 15, 2018 20:24243281
U.S Embasy Move & Conceptual Palestine Solution [187 words]Rich McMahonJun 15, 2018 18:02243277
Israeli victory [205 words]Debanjan BanerjeeJul 9, 2018 12:19243277
2Finally an argument that is not absurd [402 words]PrashantJul 9, 2018 20:51243277
Questions for our dear Deb صلى الله عليه وسلم aka PUBH! Oh our dear Deb is now a soy boy! [225 words]dhimmi no moreJul 10, 2018 07:34243277
Paging our dear Deb: Is it true that Muhammad and your idol Ali were created from light? Dear readers: No I'm not kidding! [89 words]dhimmi no moreJul 15, 2018 08:05243277
Alternative to Violence - Israeli Victory By Another Means [514 words]M ToveyJul 31, 2018 11:17243277
Note the "antizionism is not antisemitism" sign right next to the anti-semitic sign in the photo from Stuttgart. [50 words]AnonJun 15, 2018 13:26243276
US Jerusalem Embassy: Addition by Subtraction [189 words]David RyanJun 15, 2018 12:49243275
Leftists and Israel [84 words]Ilbert PhillipsJun 15, 2018 11:59243274
2The benefit in moving the Embassy to Jerusalem. [228 words]Saul SteinJun 15, 2018 10:26243273
But wait! There's MORE! [209 words]There is NO Santa ClausJun 25, 2018 14:08243273

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