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End times prophecies: Isaiah 44, Zechariah 14

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), Mar 16, 2018 at 05:06

Hi, Tovey.

Isaiah 44 and 45 certainly talk about the end times -- about the world-wide dominance of Israel and of Torah, things that have not happened until the days we live in; and then, only in allegory. The verses that caught my eye first are:

Isaiah 44:
[1] Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:
[2] Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.
[3] For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:
[4] And they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the water courses.
[5] One shall say, I am the LORD's; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the LORD, and surname himself by the name of Israel.

That seems to talk about not only the return of Israel to the land, but also its turning to YHVH. It also speaks of multitudes of non-Jews (us) worshipping the God of Israel.

The prophecy goes on, to talk about Cyrus of Persia. There was a historical Cyrus, who restored Israel to their homeland in part (Most Jews stayed in Babylon, out of preference -- just as half the world's Jews today prefer to live in the modern Babylon, which seems to be the US). Because so many wonderful things are prophesied, it seems this is talking about a time still coming, namely, our time. Who is the Cyrus of our time? Not Jesus, the Jew; and certainly not the beast. How about Lord Balfour? He paved the way for the Jews to return, and to set up Medinat Israel; and he was a goy, like Cyrus. But then, Balfour was just a minister, and Cyrus was a king. The honors, then, would go to King George, of the House of Wettin./Windsor.

Concerning my recent troubles with fellow Christians, I did something seemingly insignificant; and it has mushroomed into quite an episode. One of our elders preached a sermon, in which he said "Jesus IS God" -- something which, if you carefully read the New Testament, is patently ridiculous; for Jesus truly died (which God cannot do), and God raised him from the dead (which humans cannot do); and "Jesus" and "God" (referring obviously to the King of the Universe) are repeatedly spoken of in juxtaposition, as clearly unique and separate individuals.

A few weeks after that elder said those things, I asked another elder about them. When the first elder got wind of it, he didn't bother to discuss the matter; he simply conspired with another elder to immediately cast me out.

Obviously, there is a problem to be worked out, concerning dictatorial leadership; but the doctrines themselves, I think, are a major problem God wants to address. Is Jesus the Messiah, sent from God? or is he God Himself, the sender? Is the the Son of God, or his own father? I have been in several churches, but have never seen such a dogmatic stance on a doctrine so plainly unscriptural; yet it seems, this teaching is widespread among "Born Again" Evangelicals. Many of these are of my own generation, who came to know Jesus as a personal savior, as a friend and elder brother; and now that same Jesus is being portrayed as not really fully human. This makes a mockery of our being "one" in Christ; it makes HIM "one" only with God and not with us, and separates us unto outer darkness. What kind of cocklemany teaching is that? Yet is widely taught and received, as a nonsensical "mystery".

Needless to say, I might even be offending you with this. If so, it is nothing personal. I have been following Jesus for too long now, to stop teaching the truth in order to please men; and I think that God Himself is calling for an end to this divisive, evil foolishness. We are talking here about Jesus, my dearest brother; and our Father, even God, who loves us with all His heart.

Meanwhile, the Russians, Turks, Iranians, what have you, are all jockeying for position in Syria; and the mobsters called the "Palestinian Authority" are ever extorting "protection" money from the goyim. In the background, every petty dictator is making a nuclear bomb in his garage, getting ready for Zechariah 14. Interesting times. I never planned all this; but wow! These are exciting times!

God bless and keep you, in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.


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