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Victory and the Weapons of Hasbara

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Submitted by Robert (United States), Dec 12, 2017 at 09:59

Dear Historian Dr. Daniel Pipes,

This is the first time I've heard your voice, and it was a pleasant experiencing/observing your rhetorical skills !!!
I do not disagree with anything you've expounded but wish to compliment (pun intended) your remarks.

In your Mission Blog on your Daniel Pipes Page you distinguish between Strategy, or How to Win,
on the one hand, and Apologetic methods, Moralizing, Defending, etc (you actually use other words).
However, hear you make it clear that by Victory you do not mean just militarily
(which reminds me of the famous quote which holds that War is Diplomacy by other means.

I think that here you make it implicit that you count Hasbara as substantially important.
Elsewhere you elevate the discourse of Truck Drivers as opposed to fancy intellectual academics.
In that vain I recommend that you "pick up the torch" of our President Daniel Pipes and learn yo use his Neologism, namely FAKE NEWS (as much as that sound or voice might be distasteful to you at first, haha).

Disinformation, Propaganda, the Spin of the Press, are all embodies in that Neologism of The Donald,
the Manhattanite who actually reminds me of our wonderful FDR the Dutch elitist who took un the establishment, but without his despair at occasional failures.

You have significantly exposed the politicization of America's Academia, but when Truck Driver Donald calls out the Press as disseminating Fake News, I think you underestimate The Donald because, perhaps he isn't an Intellectual. For example, The Donald gave a second wonderful speech at the opening of the Civil Rights Museum in Mississippi, where it appears he was reading from Teleprompters (just like other Presidents), but in conclusion he peppered an observation on his own remarks as having used Long Words, or Big Words, etc.;
I don't exactly recall his remarks to quote him, but enough to know that he and you are on the same wavelength. For one thing, you have introduced now the word VICTORY - that should remind you how much The Donald loves the Military, and how fund he was of his Uniform when he attended a military academy/school in his youth, having been disqualified, as I recall, from serving in the Armed Forces during the Vietnam war.

In that context, I wish not to underestimate the Power of Words in Israel's Battle for Victory.

First of all, I suggest that you point out that the Jews and Israelis and Arabs and Muslims and Christians and Palestinians inside and outside the Holy Land Without Exact Borders have been engaged in a CIVIL WAR beginning more or less in 1917, through 1947,8 climaxing in 1967, and still continuing in 2017 - a sort of 100 Years War I might say and am saying.

Calling it a CIVIL WAR is extremely important because it determines the Rules of Engagement and its relationship to so0called International Law, which only means the expressed will of the 15 Members (permanent and non-permanent) of the Security Council of the UN.

In that regard, one should look at the CIVIL WAR Victory that created ISIS in Iraq and Syria;
the Spanish Civil War was no less such just because American and Communist Mercenaries joined the fight against Franco and Hitler. However, the Civil War of ISIS crossed the borders of Baghdad and Damascus,
which were the CAPITOLS of the Arab Empire during its Golden Age.

In that context one needs to observe that Israel hasn't yet concluded its CIVIL WAR, and that the United Nations and the "International Community" are interfering in the Domestic Affairs of Israel-Palestine.
The Chines Paradigm is appropriate here, whereby China maintains that the dispute over Tibet is an Internal Matter.

In summary, a Dimension to Israel's Victory is in being PROACTIVE in its Civil War as such.
In that struggle it is important to expose the External Combatant
who interfere in the resolution of this (uncivil) Civil War.
In 1947, just 2 years after the conclusion of World War Two,
and the exposure of European Hitlers Holocaust and Genocide respecting 13,000,000,
including Slaves, Communists, and Homosexuals as slaughtered or gassed victims,
but 6,000,000 Jews as the largest single population,
the General Assembly Recommended that the Ancient City of the Jews
be a Separate Body for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
This Recommendation must be rejected.
Christians already have Rome and the Vatican.
Constantinople was Conquered by the Ottoman Turks and turned into the Turkish City ISTANBUL.
Ataturk wisely establish Ankara into republican Turkey's Capitol,
and made Sophia into a Museum and no longer a Mosque,
having perhaps less wisely abolished the Sultanate and Caliphate
and Demagogue Erdogan is assuming those roles
under the subtle banner of a Neo-Ottoman Empire.
However, the Tsar Putin appears to be reviving Moscow's as the New Roman
with his conspicuous presence in Syeia
and a creeping return to Socialist Nassar's Egypt
during the times of the Soviet Union.

But besides REVOLUTION, there now exists DEVOLUTION.
Strategically, Israel must take its battles across ALL BORDERS.
Brexit is in the process of development.
Greater Kudistan is being supported by Russia (in Syria) and the USA (in Iraq),
Sub-Sahara Africa is open to Israeli Globalization.
(Communist) China and (Hindu) India, Billion people Empires
that aren't in the Abrahamic sphere are economically already on the side of Israel.

I will now stop arbitrarily because a Comment space is not a place to write a book.
In conclusion, Israel isn't a Local Middle Eastern issue,
Rather, it is an International Problem as in the Racist Henry Ford's Fake News,
"The International Jew." It is also an issue that;s a part of the Internationalism of Karl Marx,
beginning with the "Communist Manifesto" and continuing through The Third International,
The [Jewish] Bund, and climaxing in
the collapse of the Soviet Union and Capitalization of Communist China.

The Exceptionalism of Jews and Americans, as well as Israel and the United States
requires a Global vision and Strategy,
And in that context, Israel has turned into a Startup Nation
while Palestinians Popularized the Suicide Warrior (they didn't even invent him).
The first Uniformed Jihadists were Palestinians,
and they proudly wore and publicly displayed their Suicide Belts against the Jews of Israel.
And now the Suicide Jihad of Islam[ism] has reached the West.
Yet Eurabia is still asleep or
under the illusion
that Israel is the problem
rather than the solution.

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Daniel Pipes replies:

The term "civil war" is conventionally used to refer to a war between combatants who consider themselves one people. That does not apply in the Arab-Israeli conflict.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Israel victory [53 words]Simms PearlJul 5, 2018 20:46243612
2What will happen after Israeli victory? [298 words]PrashantJul 21, 2018 22:11243612
No substitute for victory. [323 words]Reynald de ChatillonMar 19, 2018 02:15242513
Fatah apparently doesn't like the idea of Israel victory [53 words]PezDispenserFeb 1, 2018 16:00242038
1The Last Samurai, Palestinian Style [106 words]PezDispenserJan 27, 2018 12:58242001
One way train! [56 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
BenJan 24, 2018 10:48241969
1Self Selection [99 words]DajjalJan 28, 2018 19:12241969
3Train Wrecks Can Be Fun, Too! [42 words]UNCLE VLADDIJan 31, 2018 18:14241969
1Not MESA Nostra! [22 words]DajjalFeb 1, 2018 21:00241969
3Peace in Palestine [100 words]MarkJan 13, 2018 16:12241843
So... [37 words]LeslieJan 4, 2018 17:55241761
2The River Of Blood [115 words]
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DajjalJan 4, 2018 05:32241760
1666, Jerusalem and Ludicrous Speed [950 words]Michael SJan 14, 2018 14:23241760
1Confusion! [63 words]DajjalJan 15, 2018 02:23241760
1Eternity [82 words]DajjalJan 15, 2018 02:32241760
Islam will come crumbling down. [208 words]Michael SJan 24, 2018 04:27241760
1A Difficult Boat To Row [213 words]DajjalJan 26, 2018 17:26241760
Teach, teach and educate the White House, Cogress [191 words]NuritGJan 3, 2018 20:06241759
1Risky endeavor not necessary [485 words]SamJan 3, 2018 15:13241754
Appeasement and negotiation has never won a war. [6 words]Darlene CasellaJan 3, 2018 13:02241753
1Muslim Religious War, Arab Nationalist/Racist War, and Palestinian Civil War [351 words]
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LudvikusJan 1, 2018 12:18241726
Saeb Erakat (the "clown", in your words) was this week described on Israei tv as representing the Palestinian 'peace-now' movement [3 words]AnonDec 28, 2017 18:23241697
If we think about Jordan we must ask whay she was created? [11 words]Orly Benny DavisDec 16, 2017 03:03241576
2Jews as Citizens of Disputed Palestine [250 words]RobertDec 13, 2017 10:36241555
3Robert has a nice suggestion [209 words]PrashantDec 31, 2017 10:19241555
1Israel is on solid legal and historical ground as far as its' territorial boundaries [476 words]YJ DraimanJan 3, 2018 16:28241555
Victory and the Weapons of Hasbara [1060 words]
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RobertDec 12, 2017 09:59241545
11922 League of Nations - Mandate for Palestine - a British Bloody Mary Uncivil War [396 words]LudvikusDec 23, 2017 13:01241545

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