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I reject the idea of "an Islamic conspiracy to destroy the West." Conspiracy implies some central agent making plans, which does not exist.

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Submitted by Kirby, Aug 5, 2017 at 20:17

So, Muslim incursions into India, Europe, and Africa in the first thirteen centuries of Islam's existence at the cost of tens of millions slaughtered and enslaved, and today's heinous persecution of Jews and Christians in Muslim controlled nations - is not a conspiracy? A religious calling perhaps would be more to your liking?
The actions and behind the scenes ministrations of the MB, CAIR, ISNA, and the college campus group MSA in the US don't have any under the table motives? The destruction of our Constitution, laws, and culture to be substituted by Sharia are a fabrication?
Roughly 20 years ago, the various Muslim groups in the US got together and formed a pact to all these goals I mentioned above. They wrote quite a long paper on it. This doesn't constitute a "central agent making plans"? And, of course, this line of thinking doesn't extend to Europe, Australia, Canada, etc. where these things are advancing in these directions swimmingly?
I know, Daniel, that you are far more versed in all this than I, so I'm puzzled by your frequent proclivity towards giving Islam a positive benefit of the doubt. It's especially puzzling for me when taking their law of abrogation into account.
I'm only asking that you educate me in something I'm obviously missing here.


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I am not saying that Islamists do not want to destroy the West; of course they do. I am saying there is no coordinating body planning out this conspiracy. Yes, the Muslim Brotherhood wants to do this, but so does the Saudi monarchy, the Islamic Republic of Iran, ISIS, Erdo─čan, and many others. I.e., no central command.

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I support Daniel Pipes's views [48 words]RoseKAug 11, 2017 12:43240457
true [1 words]Jon PurizhanskyAug 10, 2017 12:51240448
1Kudos [31 words]Lisa PlummerAug 7, 2017 18:29240413
1Pseudo-intellectual retarded [15 words]Joel ScottAug 7, 2017 00:58240400
1Academics who lie by omission are not dumb. They are pragmatic and greedy. [367 words]PrashantAug 13, 2017 17:15240400
1Do Jews and Israelis Also Share Humanity? [141 words]DaveAug 6, 2017 22:00240396
1True To Form [42 words]Michael RosenbergAug 6, 2017 18:41240395
3The nature of Islam, look to the source. [343 words]J ParryAug 6, 2017 15:17240394
1Karen Armstrong is not a scholar of Islam and her views of Islam and its history should be totally rejected [124 words]dhimmi no moreAug 6, 2017 06:48240386
Camp [75 words]william carrAug 6, 2017 02:54240380
4I reject the idea of "an Islamic conspiracy to destroy the West." Conspiracy implies some central agent making plans, which does not exist. [216 words]
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KirbyAug 5, 2017 20:17240374
1It is not a conspiracy! There a command by Muhammad to convert non Muslims to islam either in peace or through war [263 words]dhimmi no moreAug 6, 2017 07:24240374
"central command" is the Quran, Muhammad, and Allah ... [58 words]KirbyAug 13, 2017 17:24240374
3One "Central Agency" That Plans The Destruction of America and the West [317 words]
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Mike RamirezAug 5, 2017 19:32240370
3Not just the Muslim Brotherhood but also Tablighees from India/Pakistan [273 words]dhimmi no moreAug 7, 2017 07:00240370
1The Caliphate Will Establish "Central Command" [427 words]Mike RamirezAug 9, 2017 23:02240370
1Dawa is very dangerous [281 words]dhimmi no moreAug 13, 2017 17:37240370
1Nubia and its Arabization and Islamization is a cautionary tale [193 words]dhimmi no moreAug 21, 2017 17:44240370
3The Straw Man Approach [97 words]ANN FARMERAug 5, 2017 18:41240369

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