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Submitted by Hakan Erdemir (Turkey), Apr 21, 2017 at 19:04

Alright, let me start to say that I am dissident to Erdoğan. But most of analysis are terribly wrong. I dont want to talk every single stuff one by one. Instead I will give one example. And I will use some kind of slang language because of I am bored, sorry about that.

Erdoğan or Turkish goverment is not against Kurd people. There are millions of Kurds in Turkey, we have no problem with them. But we have some kind of serious problems with PYD/PKK. These guys organize serious terror attacks in Turkey just like ISIS attacking the same in Europe. Those guys are mostly Kurds but we dont f**cking care about their nation or their religion or their anything. They are no more than terrorists who killed many innocent people walking in streets whatever nation or religion they have. ...

Erdoğan is the one that acted softest to those terrorists compared his rivals(which is Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu in CHP and Devlet Bahçeli in MHP right now)
He even tried to make a secret agreement with these murderers.
Even if these rivals were in charge(I support Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu by the way), nothing would be changed, instead they would deal even harder to these terrorists and fight with them properly as they must.
It has nothing to do with any nation or any religion. It is about an organization who threats innocent people of a country(which is Turkey) and no one gives or will give a f**ck the reason behind that because they killed myriads of innocent people which makes them armed bandits.
Arguments are simply invalid when you start to kill innocent people because it makes you a terrorist, a murderer.

Bülent Ecevit had almost zero ally in between whole Europe and USA back to the starting of milennium age. They denied him and even tried to humiliate him with some kind of body language because of Cyprus war.
It would be the %100 same situation even if any rival was in charge. It would be just as same as the decisions of Bülent Ecevit.
I am telling you, I dont like Erdoğan, actually I hate Erdoğan.
But I hate you guys more because you are nothing more than manipulators.

One more note; Ecuador guys are simply idiots. I am not suprised they are ultimately weak with this idiocity. Yes, Erdoğan or any bodyguards had no rights in that scene. It is clearly their fault, period. But just because of the Erdoğan's fault they said "we are on the side of the Kurds". ... these Ecuador guys are just mongols who believe everything that the establishment gives to them. (Trump had a clear right point about the establishment case.)

These PYD/PKK guys killed more than 40.000 innocent people who has nothing to do with them. It is not about Erdoğan. It is about terrorism. I will tell one more again. Arguments are simply invalid when you start to kill innocent people because it makes you a terrorist, a murderer.


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You say you are a dissident but you sound like an apologist for Erdoğan to me.

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