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Submitted by Richard Martin (China), Jan 28, 2017 at 02:31

My third and last comment because I never responded to the second part of your title "Can they be defeated"

Yes, of course they can be defeated but not by treating them well and making concessions to them. The harder their life, the less they would like to stay, especially if a choice was given them for a better life. They wouldn't take that choice for a decade or more but eventually many would. Just as now more and more palestinians are seeing their own state within Israel as not possible.

Jordan is Arab Palestine and Israel is Jewish Palestine. That is the two state solution.

Jordan, f/k/a Trans-Jordan and f/k/a Eastern Palestine has the largest palestinian population in the world. it was 77% of the Palestine Mandate. Although the "west bank' is a fake modern term for Judea Samaria, people never ask about the "east bank".

Those who now live on the "west bank" were full citizens of Jordan from 1948 to 1988 when Jordan relinquished all claims to land they conquered in 1948. Jordan's explanation is King Hussein "granted" all Jordanian claims, privileges and rights to the palestinian people living there. Well, as I understand International Law, a conquerer, which Jordan was in 1948, cannot will or transfer that conquest to a Third Party after losing that land to another in war. The land reverts to the winning party which was Israel in 1967. King Hussein knew Jordan could never defeat Israel so he simply ignored Israel. King Hussein laid the framework for the disaster that presently exists.

If palestinians living on the west bank have proven anything from even before the modern nation of Israel came into existence, it is they cannot live in peace with Jews and especially with a Jewish Nation. Jews should be the dhimmis, not Arabs. They belong in an Arab place and that would be Jordan where many if them even have relatives from the days that east and west bankers moved between the two places.

I am sure many people see my approach as too hard line with palestinians. But really what has been the objective of palestinians for over 69 years but to wipe Israel from the face of the map. They are not simply a minor headache but a potential mega threat to Israel. And based on their past performance does anyone think things will change with them in their own state? And just as we know the opinion of "international community" of Israel so too we know its opinon of "Palestine".

Israel will never get a fair shake on any issue and there are unfortunately many Jews in Israel who will line up behind the palestinians. In the end it will be Jews who destroy Israel.

They must go to Jordan and Jordan must be compensated very well for that. Right now Jordan has Muslim refugees from Syria and Iraq but not the ones who can bring Peace to Israel. The Palestinians.

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