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Do you want more, or less, Palestinians in Israele?

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Submitted by Robert (United States), Dec 9, 2016 at 10:45

Dear Daniel Pipes,

Did I just Insult and Incite by posing the question in the title to this Comment?

My purpose is directed to the conviction today
of Geert Wilders of the Netherlands
for asking this kind of question in a Bar in the Netherlands;
however, he asked it of his fellow Dutch citizens regarding Moroccans.

My observation here I directed to John Kerry, our American diplomat,
who is effectively telling the world
that Settlement in the "West Bank" means more or less Jews in a future Palestinian state.
And from another perspective on can implicitly attribute to him the question to the Israeli public,
whether it wants more, or less, Palestinians in Israel.

Aside from the hypocrisy or legality of speech in the Netherlands
the broader issue here implicit is whether it is legitimate to discuss Demographics
by identifying people or populations by their country of origin.
For example, did Donald Trump Insult and Incite Mexicans
by implicitly asking, "Do you want more, or less, Mexicans in the USA."

It seems to me that though this question certainly doesn't invoke love for him by Mexicans,
it isn't illegal nor unconstitutional in the USA
and that our immigration laws traditionally have focused on people's geographic or national origin.
Therefore, for example, we are entailed to ask, the politically incorrect question in the USA
where or not we want more or less immigrants from Europe,
as opposed to Africa or Asia or South and Central America.
Although this is certainly not a very nice question to pose
the fact is that Europe is the West, and the others are the East, South East, and South,
whereas Americanism originates in Great Britain, the home of our political traditions,
the place where the Renaissance and the Enlightenment originated.

This is, in a broad sense, a question of Discrimination.
However, it isn't a Racist question based on the discredited Nazi Pseudo-theory of genetics.
People migrant with their Cultural and Religious Baggage,
which they can shed, unlike their Skin and its Color.
Therefore, it does not violate Human Rights
to want to prefer one's own Culture and Judaeo-Christian roots
by wanting less immigrant from the Arab or Muslim countries
in which countries Islam is the majority Religion
and the Suicide Military Tactic originates;
hey how many Suicide Bombers were Israelis or Christian?

In summary, legal prohibitions on Racism in the USA
should not prohibit Discrimination
as to where Immigrants to the USA should come from.

Incidentally, Economics is not the sole reason Europeans aren't moving to Muslim majority country.
These places are literally killing their Christian populations,
having already practically eliminated all its Jews
by effectively making them flee to Israel.

Imagine, for a moment if Alexandria in Egypt
was to be encouraged to create an environment
where Christians and Jews could once more live in peace with Egyptian Arab Muslims.
The Demographic displacement occurred in the 1950.s under Nasser.
But Egypt is the mostly like place where a thriving Christian and Jewish minority could live
if the Muslim Brotherhood is stamped out.
But that isn't possibly if we ignore this "terrorist" organization to thrive and infiltrate the USA.
I use this "terrorist" term the way Turkey's Erdogan does - to include all his enemies.

Our State Department lists illegal international organizations espousing terrorist violent acts.
Perhaps its time to broaden the category to include UN-American organizations like the Muslim Brethren, in spite of the fact that this term invokes the dark period of US history
that's known for its McCarthyism. If we falsely "cried wolf" then
should stop us from reviving the term now as in "The Muslim Brotherhood is UN-American."


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