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in response to reader comment: So is the US blackmailed?

Submitted by Michael S (United States), Nov 24, 2015 at 05:11

Hi, Alexandros. You wrote,

You write it is geography and Turkey controls this land. Ok is it then that Turkey blackmails America? Is America a hostage of Turkey then? Turkey is in NATO, can they easily leave NATO for someone else? And why someone's else hegemony would be better for Turkey?

From America's point of view, it is this: The US is a maritime power, dependent on trade to form alliances with countries like Britain, France, Germany and Japan. Those alliances are held together militarily by American sea power. Our natural enemies, the Russians and Chinese, are linked by land and control the vast majority of Eurasia away from the oceans. Our policy over the years, then, has been to contain those land giants with encirclement. In this, we are just continuing a policy the British practiced for two centuries until WWII. Greece is "inside" this watery alliance; and Turkey, a high plateau facing Russia and controlling the Bosporus, is at the vital "outer edge" of our (Greece's and America's) defenses. Just looking back at Greek and Roman history, you can see the importance of this situation. Imagine, if you will, the Russians having naval bases at Istanbul, Izmir and Cyprus. If that were to happen, we would be in a far less secure position.

Concerning "why someone's else hegemony would be better for Turkey?", you are correct: The Turks are not serious about joining the SCO with Russia and China, nor with teaming up with the Iranians. I think Erdogan sees himself, rather, as a Sultan in his own right, a regional power. His threats, to join the SCO or to buy a sophisticated early warning system from the Chinese, are probably arm-twisting against NATO so he gets what he wants. He's playing the refugee crisis the same way. You went on,

It is like we recognise that we are in perpetual war, that everyone is against everyone! Is it like that?

Yes. Both Russia and the US need to be in continual conflict, for both parties to justify their existence. "No war" means "no need for Big Brother". Even the "Peace" movement needs war and the threat of war, in order to stay in business.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1The recent Turkish election [169 words]dhimmi no moreNov 3, 2015 07:46226199
Erdogan's logic [167 words]AlexandrosNov 3, 2015 06:20226196
US-Turkish-ISIS Alliance [334 words]Michael SNov 4, 2015 15:56226196
Obama's a little trickier than Erdogan [190 words]Michael SNov 5, 2015 00:20226196
1I pretty much agree but... [814 words]AlexandrosNov 9, 2015 06:05226196
Christian-Muslim alliances [91 words]Michael SNov 12, 2015 05:06226196
So is the US blackmailed? [368 words]AlexandrosNov 20, 2015 05:01226196
War is essential for governments and movements [367 words]Michael SNov 24, 2015 05:11226196
Turkey is in a commanding position; and Erdogan is in a commanding position in Turkey. [468 words]Michael SNov 3, 2015 04:17226194

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