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in response to reader comment: Stereotypical stereotypes stereotypically tend to fall short.

Submitted by George Keselman (United States), Nov 1, 2015 at 16:42

Thank you, Michael S. for your comments although your response is too 'generic'. I smiled at its a bit condescending style.

You agreed with me it's not a racist point of view. No, it's not about stereotypes either but rather about stable patterns that have lasted for centuries. Mark Twain published "The Innocents Abroad" on January 1, 1869 http://www.amazon.com/The-Innocents-Abroad-Wordsworth-Classics/dp/1840226366 . Most of it is still applicable today. There are many good books available on Latin Americans as well.

http://www.theguardian.com is a leftist paper. Moreover, that map is useless.

Your examples do not help to explain anything on the topic.

"Generalizations have a way of never making an exact fit." That's what Commies love to say: million of cases do not prove anything. They still represent million separate cases. It's intrinsic to Commies: they hate Math since K. Marx.

No, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and late Peter Falk do not look like brothers. Far from that. Ahmadinejad looks similar to a Telugu guy from Hyderabad, India that I used to work in a company 10 years ago. Erdoğan looks Turkish; he is a lilliputian dictator when compared to what Hitler did. Turks are white people. Their problems are islam cultivated by Erdogan and many clerics and lack of civil society. As well as their Ottoman empire dreams. See similar in 'Russian World'. Erdoğan's AKP won parliamentary elections. Green light to the empire.

Unfortunately, you did not pay attention that I excluded Japanese from my statement. I can tell a Japanese person from a Chinese one. Can you?

"If you thought of North Americans, Chileans and Uruguayans, Australians & New Zealanders and NW Europeans as all part of one "race", you might think corruption went along racial lines." No, I did not mean that they are 'corrupted'. It's natural for them. They are not one race as you wrote.

Look at the picture of late Venezuela's dictator Chavez and Putin of Russia. They liked each other. Why? They both are socialists (i.e. adherents to pervasive bureaucratic hierarchy) and dictators. What is in common between Brazilian president Dilma Rousseff and Putin? Both worked for KGB. KGB keeps his tabs on Latin America.

Taiwanese feel offended if one calls them Chinese. North and South Koreans are the same one people if you remove Russian-induced hard core Commies from the North. I met a few Koreans from South. They remained very Eastern after having lived years in the West.

No, Russians are not in the same category as the Central Africans. That is absurd to assert.

Russians are an interesting example. A hodgepodge nation that emerged a millennium ago from a mixture of Western Slavic, Finnish-Hungarian, Sarmatians, Schifoes, Alans, North Sweds (i.e. Norwegians), and Turkic tribes. The people became kind of European before 1917. Negative selection for a century by Commies and post-Commies caused disappearance of civil society. They are now in multiple crises. It will be an interesting show to watch soon.

The topic is complicated only for those who do not learn from history and languages. The latter are good tools to study history and cultures. Like this one http://ancient-hebrew.org/

Thanks.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
2Erdogan perfidy [71 words]Earl GreenOct 27, 2015 10:09226090
Erdogan has time on his side -- but only so much [659 words]Michael SNov 2, 2015 13:59226090
3Dictatorship has many faces [191 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
CharlesOct 27, 2015 05:52226083
1Erdogan and the mafias. [80 words]Giorgio BalestrieriOct 27, 2015 05:05226082
2Big Deal And So What [117 words]Uncle VladdiOct 26, 2015 22:05226077
1Ritual [109 words]DajjalOct 28, 2015 17:51226077
1Eastern 'concepts' [123 words]George KeselmanOct 26, 2015 21:13226076
1"Orientalist" racism is backwards! [391 words]Uncle VladdiOct 28, 2015 17:52226076
Stereotypical stereotypes stereotypically tend to fall short. [248 words]Michael SOct 29, 2015 17:43226076
A bit more on Eastern 'concepts' [516 words]George KeselmanNov 1, 2015 16:42226076
1no way supporting Eastern 'morality' [73 words]George KeselmanNov 1, 2015 16:47226076
Where is the line? [227 words]Michael S.Nov 4, 2015 03:01226076
showing the line [66 words]George KeselmanNov 4, 2015 20:11226076
Not much air between Obama and Erdogan... and the Saudis, for that matter. [673 words]Michael SNov 9, 2015 04:31226076
1Are Merkel and Co. ready for this? [363 words]Michael SOct 26, 2015 20:56226075
Rogue dictatorship [64 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Edmond BeniacarOct 26, 2015 18:46226073

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