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"Orientalist" racism is backwards!

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Submitted by Uncle Vladdi (Canada), Oct 28, 2015 at 17:52

That old racist slander of Ed Said's, aka the "Orientalism" trope again?!

Here's the REAL difference between the Orient and the West:

When we in the West encounter a problem we're expected to solve, but which is not directly our fault, if we fail to solve it, nobody blames us; contrast that with the Orient, where the person who fails to solve a problem which was given to them, but which wasn't their fault, is expected to fall on their sword for their "immoral failure!"

They believe that not only to the ends justify the means, but also that the end results prove original intent! As with the islamic concept of "allah" itself, to Oriental thinking, there are no accidents!

The Orient didn't learn from it's own mistakes and imposed absolutist predeterministic draconian measures on everyone. Edward Said was simply a slanderous racist.

To sane people, it's a simple case of:

"NOT your problem, nor your fault!"

;-)

This sort of absolutist 'draconian' nonsense is the difference between the basic cultures of the East and West:

In the West, or 'occident,' if something is not your fault, but becomes your problem, and you fail to solve it, no body would blame you for failing.

In the East or 'orient,' if something is not your fault, but becomes your problem, then if you fail to solve it, you are found guilty of having 'caused' it, too!

i.e: An assassin attacks the Emperor, and even if he fails to kill him, it's the Emperor's chief bodyguard who takes the blame and has to commit suicide.

In the West, we might get mad at the chief bodyguard, while still acknowledging that the criminal assassin is still really by far mostly to blame for his crimes.

In other words, the East has a history of OFFICIAL, "legal" victim-blaming fraudulent slander.

;-(

But the culture of the West is actually based on two simple tenets of an entirely Eastern sage: it's based on the two rules of Cong Fuzi ("Confucius") whose First Rule is simply "Call things by their right names" (i.e: don't be a lying idolatrous fraud) and the Golden Rule of Law (which, as I've shown before, most simply defines morality as Do Not Attack First). Islam is immorality.

So: they CAN learn, and Confucius is even revered (if idolized) for showing them how!


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Title Commenter Date Thread
2Erdogan perfidy [71 words]Earl GreenOct 27, 2015 10:09226090
Erdogan has time on his side -- but only so much [659 words]Michael SNov 2, 2015 13:59226090
3Dictatorship has many faces [191 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
CharlesOct 27, 2015 05:52226083
1Erdogan and the mafias. [80 words]Giorgio BalestrieriOct 27, 2015 05:05226082
2Big Deal And So What [117 words]Uncle VladdiOct 26, 2015 22:05226077
1Ritual [109 words]DajjalOct 28, 2015 17:51226077
1Eastern 'concepts' [123 words]George KeselmanOct 26, 2015 21:13226076
1"Orientalist" racism is backwards! [391 words]Uncle VladdiOct 28, 2015 17:52226076
Stereotypical stereotypes stereotypically tend to fall short. [248 words]Michael SOct 29, 2015 17:43226076
A bit more on Eastern 'concepts' [516 words]George KeselmanNov 1, 2015 16:42226076
1no way supporting Eastern 'morality' [73 words]George KeselmanNov 1, 2015 16:47226076
Where is the line? [227 words]Michael S.Nov 4, 2015 03:01226076
showing the line [66 words]George KeselmanNov 4, 2015 20:11226076
Not much air between Obama and Erdogan... and the Saudis, for that matter. [673 words]Michael SNov 9, 2015 04:31226076
1Are Merkel and Co. ready for this? [363 words]Michael SOct 26, 2015 20:56226075
Rogue dictatorship [64 words]
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Edmond BeniacarOct 26, 2015 18:46226073

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