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Agreement and Dissent

Reader comment on item: 50 Years of Dangerous Immigration Legislation

Submitted by Ron Thompson (United States), Oct 4, 2015 at 15:08

While I share Dr Pipes view that a considerably darker view can be taken of the results of the 1965 immigration act, and that Multiculturalism as an ideology has a very dark side politcally, I am in dissent that the alternative is a "cuture of individualism and freedom" as those virtues are presently defined, at least on the Right side of the dangerous partisan divide in the country.

For at least the past 20 years those two classic American virtues have been defined as "individualism and freedom" for the very rich and greedy, not for the great mass or average of the American population, whether native or foreign-born. This is illustrated by allowing unchecked floods of money into the electoral process, drawing a distinction between bankruptcy law for the rich (easy) and hard or impossible for straitened homewowners or students drowning in debt, and many other measures that tilt the economic and tax landscape in favor of the rich. (I said illustrated rather than proven, because a relentless barrage of propaganda has successfully obscured these realities from public view, especially in the minds of the base of the party on the Right).

This is important, because if we have a problem with the party on the Left which remains blindly naive with regard to foreign dangers, the party on the Right, while aware of those dangers, has domestic polices which must hamstring the economy and make it far more unfair than it already is. Which means that the more the general population is stressed by policies which promote greater inequality and a wider sense of unfairness (reflected by surging Populisms from the left and the Right) the harder it will be to mobilize the necessary will and even attention of the populaiton to face the mounting dangers from without.

Put another way, the party in favor of ever more reckless Inequality may well be discredited even when what it saying is much closer to being correct in foreign affairs. (I say closer to being correct, because the Right still joins with the Left in a bipartisan refusal to identify Islam itself as the enemy of the United States, Israel, and Europe. The two sides also join each other in bleakly foreseeing a struggle for "genenaraions" rather than decidng to seek Victory over the ideology responsible for terrorism, 99% or more of which is in the name of islam)

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Teddy. [34 words]Albert E.Oct 19, 2021 00:02275875
1Immigrants have not been detrimental to America; but Obama supporters have [249 words]Michael SOct 10, 2015 23:46225563
2a simple truth [10 words]Charles MartelOct 10, 2015 19:15225558
1What does the future hold [117 words]dhimmi no moreOct 9, 2015 15:06225537
This is ... [67 words]Dear Dr. PipesOct 8, 2015 11:05225517
Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 [83 words]JeffOct 9, 2015 13:37225517
Our dear Deb and Detriot [130 words]dhimmi no moreOct 9, 2015 14:47225517
Immigrants did create the USA [203 words]DebanjanOct 12, 2015 10:06225517
Real refugees [270 words]JeffOct 18, 2015 11:58225517
2Dear Diary: October 10, 2115 [293 words]
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DaveOct 7, 2015 21:19225509
Following just one language - English will be a start to road of recovery! [214 words]JaladhiOct 7, 2015 16:03225503
Really so unlike other government decisions? [105 words]PeterOct 7, 2015 12:56225501
1Solutions [112 words]Stu FaginOct 6, 2015 14:41225485
4American exceptionalism [276 words]Charles MartelOct 5, 2015 22:31225463
Regarding the need for a "Muslim Reformation" [497 words]RobertOct 6, 2015 11:18225463
1Stop the flow of ME money to our universities! It's suicidal! [139 words]JaladhiOct 7, 2015 16:24225463
The links between Qatar the MB and Brookings [28 words]dhimmi no moreOct 9, 2015 16:02225463
Time to Clean House [108 words]StormbringerOct 5, 2015 14:55225457
Grave concerns for the Cultural future of the United States of America and for the American English Language [138 words]Mike DelgadoOct 5, 2015 12:44225456
NO MORE IMMIGRANTS [140 words]JACQUES HADIDAOct 4, 2015 18:19225452
Agreement and Dissent [398 words]Ron ThompsonOct 4, 2015 15:08225450
Immigration [17 words]
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2Watch Out [7 words]Barry BlackOct 4, 2015 11:10225444
Abolition of Protestantism in our history [185 words]BillOct 4, 2015 10:48225442
Where is the evidence of cultural change? [86 words]
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EBAOct 4, 2015 09:53225441
so true, so sad [87 words]RobOct 4, 2015 09:00225439
Dangerous misunderstading of immigrant cultures [471 words]Philip AndrewsOct 4, 2015 08:49225438
The bright side/ rebuttal [287 words]PezDispenserOct 4, 2015 03:01225436
Agreement [100 words]KateOct 3, 2015 22:03225435
I could care less about color, but multiculturalism is treason! [218 words]Uncle VladdiOct 3, 2015 21:50225434
2And This Is Why Trump Is Popular [345 words]DaveOct 3, 2015 19:24225433
1touche' [7 words]Charles MartelOct 19, 2015 22:46225433

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