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The Valley of Jehosaphat

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), May 18, 2015 at 10:29

Hi, Tovey

I just noticed, that you had responded to me here but I did not respond to you.

You write in a poetic style that generally zooms right past me, with its "contrail-streaked skies" and "stupified" powers plunging into "oblivion". If you want to really connect with me, I suggest you try to copy the writing style of technical manuals and assembly instructions for hardware. I think my brain resides somewhere between that and your poetry. I did catch a bit of what you said, though:

"As an aside, the debate to 'delegitimize' the Iranian military option has become a moot consideration and all that may be remaining to be seen is the outcome of Iraq's debacle with ISIS/ISIL/IS after Syria is finally silenced. The the true ambitions of the Iranian mullah military will be on the move and her proxies given the 'go' by separate proxy of the U.N. resolution on the 'Palestinian' occupation."

That turns out to have been prophetic of events this past week, when Obama's hope in the Middle East -- namely, "moderate" Sunni Arabs -- again deserted their posts and fled before the ISIL advance on Ramadi. Iraq seems to be settling into a three-way split between Kurds, Sunni Arabs and Shi'a Arabs; which may continue in the making for years, but will probably formalize itself along lines already drawn (with ISIL representing the Sunni Arabs).

In Syria, I think the situation is more suspenseful: Eventually, I expect Al-Nusra and what is left of the Free Syrian Army to merge with ISIL. The Syrian Kurds may also fall prey to a joint Turkish-ISIL vise crushing them; but I expect the Assad government in Damascus to continue indefinitely. Hizbullah, meanwhile, may, at Iran's direction, try some foolish move against Israel: That always provides some excitement in what otherwise tends to be a dull opera of Islamic madness. I don't know what the outcome there may be; but I suspect that the Turks will ultimately invade Syria and butt horns there with Israel.

I continue to be in awe, at YHVH's provision for Israel. The Muslim-on-Muslim turmoil playing itself out the past four years all around Israel, reads like the battle in the "Valley of Jehosaphat":

2 Chronicles:
[14] Then upon Jahaziel the son of Zechariah, the son of Benaiah, the son of Jeiel, the son of Mattaniah, a Levite of the sons of Asaph, came the Spirit of the LORD in the midst of the congregation;
[15] And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the LORD unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's.
[16] To morrow go ye down against them: behold, they come up by the cliff of Ziz; and ye shall find them at the end of the brook, before the wilderness of Jeruel.
[17] Ye shall not need to fight in this battle: set yourselves, stand ye still, and see the salvation of the LORD with you, O Judah and Jerusalem: fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them: for the LORD will be with you.
[18] And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD.
[19] And the Levites, of the children of the Kohathites, and of the children of the Korhites, stood up to praise the LORD God of Israel with a loud voice on high.
[20] And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.
[21] And when he had consulted with the people, he appointed singers unto the LORD, and that should praise the beauty of holiness, as they went out before the army, and to say, Praise the LORD; for his mercy endureth for ever.
[22] And when they began to sing and to praise, the LORD set ambushments against the children of Ammon, Moab, and mount Seir, which were come against Judah; and they were smitten.
[23] For the children of Ammon and Moab stood up against the inhabitants of mount Seir, utterly to slay and destroy them: and when they had made an end of the inhabitants of Seir, every one helped to destroy another.
[24] And when Judah came toward the watch tower in the wilderness, they looked unto the multitude, and, behold, they were dead bodies fallen to the earth, and none escaped.

Blessed be the Lord God, the God of Israel!

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BEFORE and AFTER are 180° rotated from each other [21 words]Michael SJun 13, 2015 04:57223794
1A Flawed Assumption [136 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
JohnApr 14, 2015 08:30222851
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2Obama will not attack Iran; Israel has to do it. [442 words]Michael SApr 22, 2015 03:44222851
On Second Thought - An Iranian Nuclear Threat Will Hurt Them More Than Help Them [273 words]M. ToveyApr 23, 2015 19:08222851
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1To the Ayatollah: "Make my day" [344 words]Michael SApr 28, 2015 21:04222851
Isaiah 13:6; Make MY Day, says the Eternal Sovereign of Israel [217 words]M. ToveyMay 1, 2015 11:31222851
Yes, it is God, Who's day they will make [577 words]Michael SMay 10, 2015 05:05222851
Golan, the Front Door; Megiddo, the Porch; Jerusalem, the Salon. [8 words]M. ToveyMay 11, 2015 11:08222851
Yet; "In That Day"; the Day is Approaching; is Approaching Indeed [218 words]M. ToveyMay 14, 2015 11:21222851
Economic upsets ahead? The implications of an Israeli attack on Iran [676 words]Michael SMay 17, 2015 04:38222851
Psalm 83 phase (attack on Israel by Arab neighbors) is essentially over [435 words]Michael SMay 18, 2015 22:40222851
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Closure for Psalm 83 - Nearly Done- But Not Quite Over [86 words]M. ToveyMay 20, 2015 16:10222851
1200,000,000 men [511 words]Michael SMay 27, 2015 04:33222851
The Arabs and Armageddon [2053 words]Michael SMay 27, 2015 10:58222851
1A bigger point that no one has mentioned [30 words]Roslyn FranklApr 9, 2015 21:50222791
Draining the right side of the tub [341 words]Michael SMay 28, 2015 18:20222791
1Pipes hit it on the nail [94 words]SOL SApr 9, 2015 17:50222789
3Will Iran be attacked ... or taken out ? [72 words]Jon, a Brit in EurolandApr 9, 2015 11:36222780
Iran does not want war.... [293 words]Steve WisemanApr 9, 2015 10:55222777
"Steve Wiseman"- liar, taqiyya artist [48 words]JIMJFOXMay 3, 2015 06:16222777
There is a Way [96 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Barry BlackApr 9, 2015 10:24222775
failure to launch [147 words]FrankzApr 8, 2015 23:59222769
2Attacking Iran will mean attacking Iran, Russia and China, if Putin gets his wish. [824 words]Michael SApr 10, 2015 18:58222769
It Will Be the Point of an Arrow that Concludes the Iranian Debate [451 words]M. ToveyApr 16, 2015 14:05222769
The Valley of Jehosaphat [796 words]Michael SMay 18, 2015 10:29222769
Holy Bible Filled With Biblically Charged Poetry and Acrostics-All Pointing to One Thing [232 words]M. ToveyMay 20, 2015 11:54222769
how can the agreement not be an issue? [148 words]David BlochApr 8, 2015 20:02222762
The US is in danger of great folly. [317 words]Michael SMay 29, 2015 02:39222762
Bingo [166 words]AlexApr 8, 2015 16:59222759
WILL ISRAEL BOMB IRAN, [112 words]Jacques HadidaApr 8, 2015 16:09222758
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Bibi and Iran [39 words]Roslyn FranklApr 8, 2015 08:41222752
1the issue [30 words]MarkApr 8, 2015 07:46222751
You neglect [126 words]yuvalApr 8, 2015 04:59222748
Iran is much more difficult to attack [118 words]Lars NielsenApr 8, 2015 02:29222744
Too late? [56 words]JIMJFOXApr 8, 2015 02:05222743
To bomb or not to bomb! [65 words]steven LApr 8, 2015 00:47222741
'Bunker buster' [16 words]JIMJFOXMay 6, 2015 00:12222741

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