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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 26, 2015 at 08:00

Our dear Tariq Bey, and I'm going to be very blunt, whose Hindu ancestors were murdered brutalized and enslaved by Muslims and who is a very careless reader wrote

The word, "Islam", means, "to be in submission (to Allah)"

Then I have questions for you

1. Prove to us that there is an Allah

2. And why would you want to be "in submission" to him

3. And if there is indeed an Allah way did he allow the enslavement of your ancestors?

4. This creation is not a perfect creation. We have wars and famines and murder, rape, disease, death, fires, earthquakes, floods etc... and this so called Allah cannot even get his creation is good shape and then you want us to be in submission to him? You need to expand your reading and read about the Gonstics and Neoplatonists and you will realize that your Allah if he exists is a poor creator and is not worth worshipping and why would you want to worship anythign any way? Are you that needy?

5. Why would you be in submission to a deity who tells you that everthing in this life is based on his bogus القضاء والقدر! Oh القضاء والقدر? go and ask your Mullah to tell you what it means if he knows Arabic. So you tell me why should I submit to a deity who tells us that he guides whom ever he wants and lead astray whom ever he wants. This means that the likes of Ghandi and the Buddha and Mother Tersesa will go to his little hell and the likes of the terrorists members of the Islamo-fascist Da'ish will go to his little heaven with its boys and eternal vergins

I will be looking forward to your answers and do me a favor skip the drivel

or "one who has submitted (to the will of Allah)".

If islam really means Submission (to the will of the so called Allah) then how come it is not called استسلام? Oh استسلام? Well check with your Mullah and ask him that I the big time kafir am asking how come Islam is not called استسلام?

If you were to replace the word Islam with its meaning would it still make sense?

But you see our dear Tariq whose Hindu ancestrors were brutalized by Islam and Muslims I cannot answer this question until we establish the meaning of the word Islam and why is it not called استسلام! and let me help you and this is the dictionary meaning of the word استسلام from elmaany dictionary and I'm helping you by provding the English translation and here is the link

http://www.almaany.com/ar/dict/ar-en/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85/

اِسْتِسْلاَم ( اسم ) : خُضُوع

giving in ; giving up ; resignation ; submission ; submissiveness ; surrender ; yielding
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- abidance
- obeyance and submission
- baseness, humiliation, meekness or submissiveness
- submission; yielding; giving in; acceptance
- following in pursuit of
- act or instance of complying;obedience to a request,etc,unworthy submission,or the capacity to yield
- consistence,obedience
- complying with the rules or established practice; conventionalism
- action or behaviour in accordance with established practice or adaptation;likeness,agreement
- act of cringing
- with obedience
- acceptance of another's power; submitting
- the state of being god-fearing
- the state of being religious
- state of being loyal or feeling of support
- action of obeying; being obedient
- religiousness or fear of god
- submissiveness, submitting orpresenting
- submission; yielding
- servility; yielding
- submission or abandonment
- noun gerund of verb ( to truckle )

Do you see why you need to know Arabic before you get yourself into the religion of the Arabs only?

"One who is in submission to Allah is a fascist".

Where did I say that? Enlighten me please

You can submit to anyone, real or imaginary as in the case of your so called Allah and I care less but you are the loser when you submit to a poor creator as I just proved to you

Your understanding puts people against one another,

And your logic is flawed Where did I say that and you provide the evidence or and you must pardon me shut up

Oh there is more let me see your so called Allah the one that you submit to him divides humanity into دار الحرب ودار السلام and he also divides us into كفار ومؤمنين! Hint your Allah hates his own creation!

if you were Islam you would understand that peace begets peace and that there is no such thing as peace through force (strength),

Then go and tell the Yazidis and the Assyrians and the Christians in Iraq and Syria that Islam is all about peace and they will think that you are funny our dear Tariq whose Hindu ancestors were enslaved by Muslims

to suggest or say such is just another way of justifying the oppressing another group of people.

Oh is this the Islamophiba so are we there yet? the ones that oppressed others are Muslims and take the case of India over a period of 500 years 80-90 million Hindus were killed ensalved and raped by the Muslim invaders of India and did you ever read about Hindus crashing planes in big buildings or raping or chopping heads or burning people alive in the name of let us say Lord Krishna? you do not see it because Hinduism is a far superior tradition when compared with Islam

If one looked at two equivalent expressions but did not know they were equivalent it would be the perspective of the unlearned that there the two are not equivalents i.e. one would not recognize their equal counterpart because they appear to be very different from self. ( Ex. 1/2 = 0.5 ) The example illustrates the passage. Would it not be in error for the fraction, in the example above, to assume itself of greater or lessor worth than the decimal? This is what undermines peace and how conflict comes to be and why it is sustained. The inability to see the same in what appears to be different.

Tablighee gobbeldygook and go and tell the victims of Islam the above gobbledygook and they will laugh at you. This smells of Tablighee gobbledygook so are you another lost tablighee?

Leave Islam and the Arabs and their imperialism and be free

Now it is your turn to make a fool of yourself. Go!

Submitting....

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1Islamo-fascists and the duck! [37 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 16, 2015 16:54221110
Islam is a Misnomer [202 words]Tariq BeyFeb 25, 2015 17:18221110
2Another needy Muslim [1073 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 26, 2015 08:00221110
Islamofascist; what a bunch of tripe [86 words]R.J. ConnorsApr 8, 2008 20:54125121
Islamic Fascism [351 words]E. David LitvakNov 1, 2006 22:3765043
For Dr. Pipes: It seems that there is a madrassa in Queens, NY [234 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
dhimmi no moreAug 21, 2006 06:5853589
The term 'fascist' correctly applied to Bush is co-opted [61 words]LeeAug 19, 2006 18:4153478
Not politically correct. [156 words]Robert LynnAug 18, 2006 05:1553326
When asked why are all the terrorists Muslims [84 words]John PhilipsAug 18, 2006 01:0953307
Islamic Fascism Is An Oxymoron: It's Like A Yellow Blackboard! [586 words]Allan E. MallenbaumAug 17, 2006 20:0053281
It is Fascism in deed if not form [162 words]TiberusAug 18, 2006 22:3453281
You know a great deal, but are still wrong [186 words]AyanAug 19, 2006 16:5553281
"FASCISM" BY MUSLIMS IS DIFFERENT FROM FASCISM BY CHRISTIANS [110 words]Allan E. MallenbaumAug 20, 2006 18:0653281
Thanks for the lesson re: Fascism [66 words]InfidelAug 21, 2006 01:0153281
What matters is what they do, not what they say [496 words]Edward ChristieSep 1, 2006 22:2753281
SAME PAGE [64 words]Allan E. MallenbaumSep 2, 2006 20:2353281
on target... [67 words]donvanMay 28, 2008 11:1053281
Tautology, not oxymoron [19 words]SteveNov 27, 2008 23:2253281
Rebuttal: Tautology, Not Oxymoron [42 words]AllanNov 28, 2008 21:4653281
What to Call Them [114 words]Marc MayersonAug 17, 2006 16:5453259
I like the title "Islamists" too but it is too nice. [227 words]TiberiusAug 17, 2006 16:1353253
Islamic Socialism. [1659 words]RalphAug 16, 2006 20:4853145
Perhaps Islamic Supremacist is a better term? [159 words]K GreenAug 16, 2006 11:5453057
Islamofascists [51 words]YolandaAug 15, 2006 04:0352876
Really? [257 words]PCMadnessAug 15, 2006 23:0452876
Yolanda (rabina yukhaliha) and the kettle and the pot old cliche! [113 words]dhimmi no moreAug 30, 2006 13:1752876
Warped Logic [169 words]YolandaAug 31, 2006 13:3552876
Bush and his lack of respect for other cultures [89 words]YolandaAug 31, 2006 13:4352876
For Yolanda (rabina Yukhaliha) And more about the kettle and the pot [100 words]dhimmi no moreAug 31, 2006 19:1652876
For Yolanda (rabina Yukhaliha) And is islam a culture?part deux [4 words]dhimmi no moreAug 31, 2006 19:1752876
For Yolanda (rabina Yukhaliha) al-faylasoofa al-kabeera and Mr. Occam! [307 words]dhimmi no moreSep 1, 2006 07:1552876
Tyranny [73 words]YolandaSep 2, 2006 02:4052876
What is the historical thrust of Islam? Is that a benchmark to determine what is "normative" for Islam? [55 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
StephenAug 14, 2006 22:2652843
Benchmarks [365 words]Keith R. SnyderAug 18, 2006 20:2952843
"moderate" Islam vs AlQaeda - who has the bigger delta vs. historical Islam? [218 words]
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StephenAug 20, 2006 14:0452843

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