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The Duece You Say: Yeshua HaNazaret Meant Every WORD

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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Oct 3, 2014 at 12:11

Hello again Michael S.;

There is no pleasure in writing this; but the need had presented itself in such a way that response is required per 2Timothy 3:16. What you have written about the Matthew prophecy has some deflections that are not borne out in the evidence log, namely, the treatment of Israel then and now and why Israel even went through any of it.

Matthew IS a straightforward read, not missing a beat or threat of what happens when one ignores the WORD of the LORD for the sake of unbelief, which comes from pride. Israel was in the throes of unbelief two thousand years ago and was yet again placed under judgment for the repetition of the violation of Moses' song (commencing from Chapter 29), excerpts following:

24) …all the nations will say, 'Why has the LORD done thus to this land? What caused the heat of this great anger?' 25) Then people will say, 'It is because they abandoned the covenant of the LORD, the God of their fathers, which he made with them when he brought them out of the land of Egypt, 26) and went and served other gods and worshiped them, gods whom they had not known and whom he had not allotted to them. 27) Therefore the anger of the LORD was kindled against this land, bringing upon it all the curses written in this book, 28) and the LORD uprooted them from their land in anger and fury and great wrath, and cast them into another land, as they are this day.' 29) "The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.

32:3) For I will proclaim the name of the LORD; ascribe greatness to our God! 4) "The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he. 5) They have dealt corruptly with him; they are no longer his children because they are blemished; they are a crooked and twisted generation.

Matthew does more than deal with Titus' overthrow of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple; it deals with Israel on its eternal track as the future throne of the Son of David, which in belief one need understand it IS the Son of David making the pronouncement. Further, the pronouncement is for the Jewish population of that time, and for the Jewish remnant of the future.

In your response, you hit all the highlights that are the signs and directives for the believing Jewish populations, again of that time and for the times of 'this generation' such as we are facing today. And let us make a distinction here: verse 30 is NOT the 'harpazo' (the snatching out), the rapture as some will call it, but it is the actual return to a rebuilt 3rd Temple in which the LORD (Isaiah 33) will occupy His throne.

Then you write: [What day is that? Is it obvious? Not really. How many times, have nations come against Jerusalem? Have these attacks been accompanied by great mourning for those who were pierced in battle? Undoubtedly! Think about that. The Jews don't look upon this as a Messianic prediction, and with good reason…..]. Why would you say that?

You then say: the key to understanding the (sic) time frame of Zechariah's prediction is dependent upon a strength that Judah and Jerusalem will have, dismissing the fact that in their weaknesses they come to a realization that they have indeed disobeyed the LORD and in spite of that, He arrives to save them from themselves, destroying the might of the nations in the process.

In your last references about Matthew 24:30,21, these are indeed previews of the Apocalypse; however, 'this generation' has a very high probably of witnessing the end of the Church age and the beginning of the purge of the Temple Mount just prior to the return of the King.

As quick parting note, you cite Zechariah 12:
[2] Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
[3] And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
[4] In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
[5] And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.

Which day is that: how about Isaiah 13:13) Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger. So, it is not all that hard to make this connection from Matthew 24:21) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

This is what the unbelieving Church is going to miss out understanding from the Scriptures if not read with the perfect keys; that the wrath is right before them and the only way to escape is the believe before Matthew 24 is enacted. Then the Apocalypse as described by Matthew 24 will make all the sense in the world, for Israel will be right in the middle of it all and only returning to her Messiah as found in Zechariah will there be their hope.

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