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Iraqi Arabic is a unique language and not a dialect

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jun 29, 2014 at 17:05

Dr. Pipes

Alissa Rubin's article is not really news (compare this with Egypt where you can tell with great ease who is a Copt and who is really Muslim although the population of Egypt is very homogenous) but she seems to be missing a very important part of how can one tell the difference between Sunni and Shia in Iraq.

Iraqi Arabic is very unique and I would even say that it is a unique language not just a dialect. It has many loan words as well as grammatical constructions from Syro-Aramaic as well as Akkadian and Persian and to a far lesser degree from Kurdish and Turkish as well as English and it has two main dialects one is called Gelet (he said) or the southern variety and then we have the northern variety or Qeltu (he said) and this is straight out of Aramaic

Iraqi Arabic also has the unique Jewish Iraqi Arabic as well as the Christian variety

Shia Arabic is indeed different and I understand (and this is anecdotal observation by a very good Shia Iraqi friend) that it tends to be the Qelet variety

I really believe that an ISIS member from Iraq would be able to tell just from the accent if an individual is Shia or Sunni

The sad thing is and this is what Ms Rubin does not get is that it seems that many members of ISIS are foreign terrorists be it Pakistanis and Indian Muslims via England or even Egyptians and Maghrebees that have no clue about Iraqi Arabic and how one can tell the difference or even at times what is the Iraqi man or woman is really saying

Ms Rubin did not get it and this is a sad story about the decline of a great newspaper and that is the NYT

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Title Commenter Date Thread
What If You're Neither? [25 words]DaveJun 29, 2014 17:40215656
1Iraqi Arabic is a unique language and not a dialect [304 words]dhimmi no moreJun 29, 2014 17:05215654
important arutz7 article [646 words]alan fleckSep 15, 2006 11:0556031
How Can we expell Muslim Immigrants from the U.S. and Stop Muslim Immigraiton? [68 words]SueSep 6, 2006 13:5955089
Newspaper... [26 words]Daryoush AlizadehAug 21, 2006 03:5453580
It happens all the times. [43 words]Ghulam Muhammed, MumbaiAug 19, 2006 10:3053444
Well the Sunni terrorist squads targeted the Shi`ites [30 words]bernardAug 17, 2006 23:0853302
If I don't stay away from Iraq... [99 words]Peter HerzAug 17, 2006 21:2853288
Passing?? [71 words]Philip SnyderAug 17, 2006 19:0553279
The Fruits of the Bush Iraqi Policy [111 words]Phil HornAug 17, 2006 18:2153274
Might just as well be a Shia. [31 words]CarlAug 17, 2006 15:5353250
Sheer Nuts [69 words]Mr. BAug 17, 2006 22:1053250
"Might as well be Shia"? Sheer nuts [66 words]Peter HerzAug 19, 2006 22:3253250
Well.. [27 words]crywolfAug 20, 2006 07:5153250
FULL CIRCLE [134 words]JAYDEEAug 16, 2006 23:4653163

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