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Submitted by rtheyserious (Canada), May 13, 2014 at 23:22

Hi all, I'll call myself rtheyserious because I'm baffled with some of these guys. I actually was so baffled how thick they could pour it on, I seeked some information because it seemed kind of obvious that something was up. I mean what is it they don't get about "I'm not interested". Well, after reading some of the stories on this site, it sure pi--ed me right off that so many could be had by these so called men - not because of stupidity but because it sickens me that anyone can take advantage of an innocent human being and not give it a second thought. They're being played by pro's, narcissistic ones at that.

These women are going in with real feeling and these dudes know it so they play a game they are good at and with all the "I love you's" and professing their ever dying love, it's easy to see how they can convince the smartest individuals. Sure, I could have stopped any communication weeks ago but I'm actually having a lot of fun getting him to believe I'm falling...NOT! I haven't been much on the social media scene, I just think it takes up too much of people's valuable time and think we're all losing out because it seems nobody communicates in person anymore (in my humble opinion). In my case I'm in business for myself so I also know that it is important to keep up with the rest of the world so.....here comes facebook. I think I have approximately 10 new arabic (mainly egyptian) men messaging me daily, I hate to say I'm actually playing along with it but I am, well one in particular.

Coming off a 15 year marriage, I don't think I'm quick to jump into any relationship let alone one with someone half way across the world with such cultural differences. I should mention that I work with muslim people and my best friend is from Egypt originally and came here to practice medicine with her family about 10 years ago. Her and her families morals and ethics are similar to mine in the way that I too was brought up with a european mentality from my parents (good girls don't, respect yourself....you get my point). That said, I might be older than this 35 yr. old and of course he's okay with it (okay bud) but I think after 6 months of communicating on skype he's noticed I'm pretty self confident, I don't look my age, I am blonde and blue eyed (apparently this is supposedly some of the types that are being targeted) and I'm sure as he sees from my facebook and some of the comments I receive from quite a few guys (beautiful, gorgeous, sexy...) and please I'm only saying this to make a point - I hardly come across vulnerable with no confidence in myself (doesn't mean I don't have my moments). I could see the slow manipulation, how he tries to introduce the religion, talk about the future etc. How I haven't driven this guy mental is beyond me lol.

He's tried the seduction online (I need you) game but all he's received from my end is "good girls dont, I won't lay down with anyone without a marriage license, I'll do pretty much anything for my man but we'd have to be married". Oh, did I mention after a few weeks something came up about money but not related to either him or myself (possibly a slow introdution to getting to the topic of money). I decided to hit him hard - I told him I declared bankruptcy because my ex took everything from me....I figured that would of done it but nope, he was so loving and sympathetic, oh and did I mention he was supposedly divorced and living on his own? lol, okay bud.

Well one day he was commenting on online fb friends and how I should delete some of these guys that appear to be after me and that "I shouldn't trust any guy, especially from arabic countries that ask for money..". I told him that wouldn't happen so good luck to the guy trying. Well lets' fast forward, one day he seemed so upset, I wasn't giving in to anything - after all, the only thing he asked me to do was "stand for him" so he could get a head to toe view, I gave him one leg at a time but fully clothed of course. He claimed I was worse then the muslim girls (imagine) and had more rules then the Quran. Everytime he dares to say anything that goes against the Quran, I call him out on it, and this I'm sure drives him nuts. Getting back to my point, he was a little irritated one day and started typing in capital letters, so I wrote "Ugh, you mind telling me why you're yelling, what is it you'd like me to say or answer since it appears I'm not satisfying you with my responses"......so he comes back with 'I WANT YOU TO TELL ME YOU LOVE ME". I paused but only for a few seconds and responded, "of course I love you, you are dear to my heart" let the games begin...

So now we're supposedly in love, he hasn't seen much of me but the pics of me online (health/fitness/medical field) and although he'll try, I will always come back with something like "I'snt that harim sweetheart", (sarcasm city) I think that's what it's called...the guy can't win, and yet he is still around professing his love, trying to convince me that he wants absolutely nothing from me, just me (I'm so honoured). Of course he knows I would never step foot in an arabic country, not in a married capacity anyway, I've been clear about that - although visiting Egypt has always been a dream of mine, as a tourist that is. I've also mentioned that my favorite holiday is Christmas and I wouldn't give that up for anyone, besides, I said "anyone changing their religion for the purpose of marriage when they never considered it prior to meeting that person is doing it for the wrong reason". So we're at the point now that I'm his "love", "my love" this, "my love that"...."I love you so much, I miss you, I just want to touch your face"...it's not hard to see why one wouldn't fall for the act but I've learned to have a thicker skin I guess since my break up.

Oh, I said something like "if there's any chance of us getting married (oh yeah, I'm running) then we need to start being honest with eachother. I mean imagine, if I really fell for this garb, that would mean that I'm actually discussing marriage and a future with someone I haven't seen in person, someone I really know nothing about AND we're just now going to ask each other questions about eachother....ugh, I don't think so. So of course after I ask him for the truth I've got to say I was almost impressed when he admitted he was married, had a child (wow, is it possible lol) and was not happy with her, she doesn't visit his family, and that he didn't want to marry her but he sacrificed his own happiness as to not disappoint his family and her family and he went one extra step when he had a child with her - the wrong step that is. Your child is looked at as a one step too far deal? Really? Then he basically said he often thinks about what her life will be like so he stayed even though all they do is fight.....He said he felt so relieved that he had told me the truth and that everything else he told me about him being an engineer and having a big family etc. was true but that he lied about the marriage. I told him that I appreciated the truth (gag, hiccup, cough up a lung) but he should know me by now, I would NEVER break up a family, especially where a child is involved. He shot back with I don't love her and it will not work, I love you"..

.I went on to say I could and would NEVER share "my man" with any woman, this marrying up to 4 women deal is off the table for me, I actually got him to commit to a few things in writing if I'm to go through with the wedding and he agreed (wonder what would happen when it came down to the signing). Oh, he also told me he will NOT sleep with me until marriage so I have nothing to worry about but that after that we wouldn't see daylight...(sorry for that visual folks). He keeps telling me he's a "very jealous man" and he would protect me from anyone and when married? He would die if anyone laid a finger 10ft from me - wonder what that really means in his language. I always say "there's no need for too much jealousy sweetheart, I only have eyes for you and if you're my man, that's it, I'm faithful for life". You can see by the look on his face he's dyyyying to say something but he holds it together.....how? He all of a sudden has to go to work "out" never fails. I often wonder once we get off skype if he's throwing things across the room. When we were online and he could see the comments coming in on fb, his demeanour was changing before me but I kept at it, "there has to be trust in a relationship...." (I'm telling you I'm surprised he hasn't jumped through the screen yet). Ths time he took a different approach, he said "he loves me so much he likes it when I have him on top of my list and he never wants that to change". I'm still trying to figure when it is I said something to that effect.

Well, I apologize for my sarcasm but I guess seeing some of the stories on here I'm trying to get some of the girls to smile or laugh even a little bit because my heart does go out to you and I feel your pain, I'm sorry you had to be subjected to all this. I guess if anyone is interested, I will come back and follow up with "my romance, love of my life" story. Until next time, take care of yourselves girls, forgive yourselves and move on with however long it takes you. I will also say this, I do not believe everyone is made from the same cloth, there is good and bad in all countries and all religions - my best friends are muslim as I mentioned and they are the sweetest, kindest and most loving people I know. But if your gut is telling you something doesn't fit? LISTEN, chances are you are 100 percent right.

Last thing I promise - LISTEN carefully to his words, how he just throws them in nonchalantly without any forethought. He mentioned that if I was in Egypt with a short skirt for example, I could get raped, and when we next spoke I said something like "okay so let me get this straight, if I came and wore a short skirt with heels, held your hand on the streets, we could possibly be thrown in jail, I'd probably raped" is that right? Then he says "nobody would be allowed to rape you but...") I shot back with "but????? what", I'm gonna guess you'd know better that to say that word with me? Shut him up pretty fast....

Okay, not I'm done, good night girls. Sorry for making this so long.

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36Long Live the Non-Muslim [847 words]AliciaFeb 18, 2021 15:37264035
15So beautifully written. Real facts. Why Islam can't be compared to other religions [353 words]A very concerned readerFeb 19, 2021 15:43264035
5Breath Taking and True Post [15 words]ChelseaMar 16, 2021 19:18264035
27Talking about morals: to Alicia on her last post which by the way I love! [314 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 00:03263953
18Reply to A very concerned reader [115 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 17, 2021 00:04263953
22A mix of fear, convenience, jealousy and pride: women's role in Islam [652 words]A very concerned readerFeb 18, 2021 04:44263953
6Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 18, 2021 13:06263953
17Muslims Countries vs The rest of the World [305 words]AliciaFeb 18, 2021 13:52263953
13Muslim's misgiving [167 words]PrashantFeb 18, 2021 16:33263953
14Wrong religion, wrong site! [84 words]A very concerned readerFeb 19, 2021 16:06263953
7100 percent correct [68 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 20, 2021 01:34263953
8Well said a Very concerned reader [153 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 20, 2021 01:52263953
12Here's a nice example [79 words]JeffFeb 20, 2021 21:21263953
8Oh, The houris... [441 words]A very concerned readerFeb 20, 2021 23:52263953
11Once again, one-sided love [66 words]A very concerned readerFeb 22, 2021 13:33263953
1Failure to Notice Where Devotion to God is Supreme in Eternity [211 words]M ToveyFeb 22, 2021 15:38263953
4Haha A concerned reader [12 words]jessica (canada)Feb 22, 2021 18:43263953
14A God with no compassion, a reward full of lust [116 words]A very concerned readerFeb 22, 2021 22:48263953
2Very well said [5 words]PrasthantFeb 23, 2021 22:09263953
11Recovery [76 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:35263953
4Relationships that Serve the Prideful Self Always Breaks the Hearts of Others [366 words]M ToveyFeb 24, 2021 12:49263953
9NPD in Muslim men and Ali Sina [317 words]A very concerned readerFeb 24, 2021 13:25263953
9Very nice reflection, M Tovey: time comes when the only thing you see is the Muslim man [358 words]A very concerned readerFeb 25, 2021 01:35263953
4Objection on Religious Grounds - Men and Women Equal in Eyes of Heaven, Salvation [479 words]M ToveyFeb 26, 2021 18:53263953
9Narcissist destroy, empaths create: a selfish religion to cater one man's needs? [483 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 15:06263953
2Correction [45 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 17:43263953
3Male-Female Emotional Disparity - Seeking Common Ground of Love [342 words]M ToveyMar 2, 2021 13:31263953
5Sowing what we truly embrace and want to reap! [314 words]A very concerned readerMar 3, 2021 02:48263953
5Emotional Survival of the Most Desperate Kind [438 words]M ToveyMar 4, 2021 11:49263953
8To N and S [233 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:19263845
17Thank you FAtou [88 words]BaboonFeb 9, 2021 12:49263786
9Hi Jessica [190 words]N and SFeb 9, 2021 15:57263786
10N and S [228 words]LinaFeb 9, 2021 17:05263786
19It's more dangerous than people may think [254 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:57263786
8Very good points [213 words]LinaFeb 10, 2021 22:17263786
7Very true [120 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:22263786
7N and S [471 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:09263786
4N and S reply [645 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 18:23263786
7Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 17, 2021 16:51263786
3WEAK [23 words]alanaSep 12, 2021 07:00263786
48To Fatou/Adja, to the immigration officers of Western countries, to this forum readers. To those googling "I'm in love with a Muslim man" [812 words]A very concerned readerFeb 9, 2021 00:36263772
17I wish I could raise a toast to this [174 words]AliciaFeb 10, 2021 01:16263772
11Cheers! [230 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:16263772
5Let's raise* that toast!!! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 15:11263772
11I could not agree more! [178 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 01:10263772
19Why they don't like Christianity [713 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 06:28263772
10Big hypocrite [222 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 09:16263772
14Hijab and the hypocrisy of it [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:13263772
4Where is the Truth Hiding When No One is Looking for it [233 words]M ToveyFeb 11, 2021 21:35263772
14My insight about Islam and why a Non Muslim woman can fit in this ideology [648 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 00:18263772
2Why Non Muslim women can't fit* [14 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 01:18263772
18Their lives and hearts are so dark [102 words]Ella AustraliaFeb 14, 2021 23:54263772
11Why they don't like Christianity [19 words]Lisa D.Feb 15, 2021 12:35263772
1Why Eternal Fulfillment is of Love/Respect is Hard to See [282 words]M ToveyFeb 15, 2021 18:02263772
7Well said, Islam has straight jacketed itself into self destruction. [139 words]PrasthantFeb 15, 2021 18:30263772
12Same feeling here, Ella, while we make great efforts to integrate their culture [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 02:18263772
2Basis of Anthipathy Towards Judeo-Christian (Messianic) Beliefs [220 words]M ToveyFeb 19, 2021 21:55263772
3Great Truth teachings on Islam [99 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:56263772
5Veils for answering the nature's call, the Muslim men's right to rape the unveiled women [338 words]A very concerned readerFeb 26, 2021 06:33263772
4Muslim dislike Christian / Christians have POWER over them [7 words]BrendaSep 17, 2021 15:28263772
7Hijab should not be used to exemplify diversity [274 words]PrashantFeb 7, 2021 01:39263720
21To Fatou: we wish we were discarded by your men!/ Thank us for warning you that they don't respect you either [335 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 15:12263711
10Ladies here last comment [146 words]FatouFeb 6, 2021 09:56263707
Rat or not? [106 words]MimiAug 16, 2021 15:20263707
10Muslim Men will NEVER Marry a 53 year old Woman [243 words]AliciaAug 16, 2021 21:34263707
Female 53 years old. [102 words]MimiAug 17, 2021 14:42263707
5Hijab should not be presented as a symbol of diversity [159 words]PrashantFeb 6, 2021 01:47263699
7Hijab as a political statement [45 words]Lisa D.Feb 9, 2021 15:10263699
4Lina reply [90 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 17:30263683
12Fatou: We wish they discard us!/ you should thank us for warning you [247 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 14:57263683
4I would just leave it be [64 words]AjdaFeb 8, 2021 02:01263683
11Hmmm Fatou we all wonder [66 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:51263683
5Ajda [7 words]FatouFeb 8, 2021 15:39263683
11Fatou's self-righteousness stinks [110 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 18:12263683
3Married [25 words]To Jessica canadaFeb 11, 2021 10:11263683
5Big hypocrites too!!! [263 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 10:51263683
9Religion over Science [77 words]Lisa DFeb 11, 2021 12:35263683
5Gifts [12 words]LinaFeb 11, 2021 15:48263683
19Marriage means nothing in Islam, my dear [101 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 18:04263683
6Reply about Married- and why are you using my name [143 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 16:23263683
13Islam is the worst, Muslim countries will never prosper they just get worse [87 words]AliciaFeb 12, 2021 17:33263683
6Alicia is right about Islam [96 words]PrashantFeb 15, 2021 18:42263683
6Cannot say Merry Christmas in here. [43 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 15, 2021 22:34263683
9You're very right, that's why our women need to be aware of this [300 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:12263683
7Big thank you and my best wishes always [263 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:37263683
2Rat?? [99 words]MimiAug 18, 2021 05:17263683
1ROP celebrations in Dhaka [184 words]PrashantApr 5, 2022 21:00263683
Another violent incidence in Tel Aviv [122 words]PrashantApr 7, 2022 21:03263683
14The true face of a real Muslim Woman [1019 words]AliciaFeb 5, 2021 13:58263674
21To Fatou: Muslimahs are deceived too. Are you surprised? [294 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:14263670
4We all wait for Fatou reply to your comments [11 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:56263670
2Lina [144 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:16263662
1Explain to concerned reader [145 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:08263661
16Your points [64 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 13:54263661
21Correction and more unreplied questions [209 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 14:43263661
14Purpose of the board [233 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 17:34263661
8Things that happen in males parties and when nobody is watching [39 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 20:01263661
12I'll take what I want from your culture and insult the rest [125 words]JeffFeb 5, 2021 20:44263661
16The reasons why Fatou is here and the controversial respect topic [290 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 16:03263661
3Lina and other who take this tone in comments [107 words]FatouFeb 7, 2021 09:55263661
7Don't forget [144 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:38263661
6Thank you [125 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:48263661
5Or better still [18 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:50263661
8So true, Lina [123 words]A concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:15263661
3Thanks to you too! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:52263661
8That is why Muslims (and the reader Fatou) need education [157 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 17:59263661
26Muslim Marriages the REAL WAY [1437 words]AliciaFeb 4, 2021 23:03263645
12What a good picture of Pakistani societal system [281 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:58263645
7Yes muslim will never like non-muslim [86 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:07263645
6This part is so true Alicia [387 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:45263645
1Pipes Response/Our Religion [36 words]FatouFeb 4, 2021 16:31263624
3Teaching basic Arabic to wannabe Arabs our dear Fatou [241 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:14263624
4Guiding the perplexed our dear Fatou and deciphering the Arabic language [97 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:29263624
1Our dear Fatou and the word الصلوة/الصلاة (PRAYER) in the Qur'an [398 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 6, 2021 07:50263624
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AjdaFeb 8, 2021 09:53263624
23About arranged marriages: what Western women must know [299 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 22:30263589
19In response to Fatou 2: It's all about respect [123 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 17:55263578
10A very concerned reader: The correct translation of صلى الله عليه وسلم is not the PBUH nonsense [158 words]
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dhimmi no moreFeb 3, 2021 15:07263571

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