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in response to reader comment: professional cheaters

Submitted by Susie (United Kingdom), Mar 5, 2014 at 08:17

Dear Yasmina,

I decided to post here my story as an explanation to such behaviour because it will make it easy for you to identify the typical scamming patterns, I think you will be shocked how much of their compliments, words, oaths and promises are made according to a SCAM SCRIPT. You have been scammed Yasmina and you need to move on. Read my story below and get strenght from it to leave lies behind!

MY STORY:

Please read carefully and try to understand: Western women have NO FUTURE with these men. It takes a totally submissive, weak, self-sacrificing, identity-crisised woman to ever please these men. And in the end they will still throw in your face the most unexpected insults, such as: "you are no more than a European slut" , "you were not a virgin when I met you"... and so much more.

Of course they can hold hours of lectures about how enlightened and modern they are, and that the old virginity-focused traditional behaviour is so far from them... bla bla bla... in the end they WILL marry a virgin arab girl because it is a question of prestige to them. No matter how much they actually may love you. No matter how much you FEEL that they DO love you... these men they condemn you deep down and can not break up with the thought that you are DIRTY, you were " consumed", "used" before they touched you, thus to their standards you remain no more than a whore. And of course nobody can forbid a man to fall in love with a "whore" but expect the results and the outcome to be just as radical and dramatic and painful as if it actually WAS true that he is in love with a whore. As a western man would probably struggle with his love and despise against that woman, you can not imagine what kind of insane double games are going through the minds of these guys. And they ALWAYS lie, whether it is necessary or not.

Be aware that Islam as a religion does regard the deception and mistreating of non-believers as a virtue and not as a shame. There is nothing wrong with deception, abuse, mistreat and lying as long as it is conducted against NON muslims, and DO NEVER be mislead by their sweet words as they try to talk nicely and respectfully about Christianity and try to convince you of the similarities of the two religions. There is nothing to do with Christians and Muslims living in peace. Nothing. He may tell you that the Quran permits marriage with a Christian woman as you are "people from the book" well be aware that the same Quran calls Christians and Jews Pigs and Apes!!!! Any idea why??? Becuase this religion is INVENTED by ...murderer who is responsible for the death of hundreds of people that he murdered along with his people. Yes Mohammed DID participate in killing. He did say that honor killing or killing of the infidels is RIGHT. And he did have sex with a 9 year old girl named Aisha.

Now take a look at Jesus. Did he kill anyone? Did he marry anyone? Did he give detailed accounts about how many physical pleasures he found in women?

Now ask yourself: do you really want to be part of such a culture? I have been to Algeria, and I have seen how women are treated there. Do you know what kind of life women live there?

I have once witnessed the "honeymoons" of an Algerian couple in Tunisia where we were on holiday with my Algerian ex. The man practically RAPED his wife so violently on their first night that he broke her cervix and she was bleeding so severely that they had to take her to hospital by ambulance from the hotel. I can not forget her face. And the bastard husband of her was not ashamed to complain to my ex about how unlucky he is because now he can not have sex with her for the rest of their holidays and he was sitting there feeling PITY for HIMSELF and not worrying for a second about his wife.

My story dates back to 2004 when I was an open-minded and hearted 19 year old university student and I blindly believed in the goodness of humanity and the possible peaceful cooperation and mixing of different cultural groups. Lets say I was an idealist and a multiculturalist. At the University where I studied I met a lot of students from different Middle-Eastern and North African countries and slowly they killed my idealism and my belief in their good intentions and so called peace loving religion.

I met my Algerian "garbage" sorry but they do not deserve to be called men, in Tunisia while I was working in a hotel as a receptionist. It was a summer job for me and I wanted to work there because the country made a very good impression on me in 2003. In 2004 I spent 2 months in Hammamet Yasmine living in a hotel and working as a receptionist and that is when I met that piece of nothing of a beast.

He was incredibly resistant and stuck to me like glue. A long emailing and skype chatting started for 5 months and he got me back in January 2005. I was in 2nd year of University and was not willing to give up on my studies to become a wife. He tried to convince me to move to Algeria and live with him. Thank God I did not accept it, and I had enough common sense to put my studies first.

In Algeria women do not have any possibilities of entertainment. NOTHING. They can not leave their houses without a male guardian and men certainly prefer to leave without their wives and sit in cafes until late night chatting and playing cards with men. Dare to say something, you will be called names and even beaten. Not me though, I am much more of a tough woman for any man to dare to touch me, but I have seen some weaker and more quiet girls being treated incredibly unfairly.

I struggled in that relationship from 2004 August till 2005 November whereby I decided that I have had enough. After 1,5 year of struggling and living on mere promises, meeting him once in 5 months so altogether 3 times, I broke up with him when he called me a slut. Then I had enough and said bye.

There was a long 2 year period of silence, I had another relationship, and time went by. In 2007 October he suddenly turns up again with an sms asking how I am and how my life is going. Stupid me, having no idea about their tactics and techniques, I replied. A long conversation on the phone followed for at least 4 hours. A lot of sweet talking, taking back memories, calling me the greatest love of his life, and Angel, a real princess.... he told me that I am the most pure, noble, intelligent, educated woman she ever met, that I was full of love and humanity and gentleness, and he always longed for that unique kindness that I gave.... From this distance I know... it was blablabla bla bla bla. He convinced me to return to him " in a long distance relationship" and the suffering started again.

I put an end to it again in 2007 february or march as I could not take the suffering that all the waiting and empty promises caused. I sent him away with a very big heartache as I was still sure back then that he is my other half. In 2010 he was back again, all fresh and new, with a GREAT DECISION THAT HE WANTS TO MARRY ME. He was so determined and confident about it all that he swept me off my feet. This time he came up with ready plans, he will come and live in Europe for me ( he was pretty wealthy in Algeria) and he was about to make a new start. By then I was 25 he was 39. I said OK. There started the last scene of the show. I gave him 1 year to finish up his business there, make enough money and come over to Europe. He swore to me that he would fly over every 2 months as he has a business visa so for him entry to Europe was never an issue. He could travel back and forth as he wanted.

He lied of course, I saw him in 2010 march and then in August!!! That is somehow not 2 months. Then I came home in August and he was supposed to come in September for a visit, of course he only said that to make me shut up and stop nagging him. September passed by, October too and he was nowhere. Of course he was never short of excuses. THESE GUYS HAVE EXPLANATIONS for everything. He lied that he could not come over becuase he needs to wait for a customer from Italy who comes in the end of October. Then it was postponed to November, then his visa expired. November went by and since August I had been alone, but he did not seem to miss me as bad as I missed him. Sure... he relieved himself with some local prostitutes in some night clubs in Algiers. So he showed up in 2010 december. Then again months passed, he prmosed to come to me for good in 2011 april. He did not. I went to Algeria fro a 4 day visit with 5 friends of mine....

Ohhh my God. It was a DISASTER. Thank God I made that trip before getting married. The treatment was so disrespectful and so CHEAP that I can not describe it. I made up my mind then and threw it all in his face. I just confronted him with all the lies and the pink picture he painted about his country and the sharp contrast between his stories and the reality.

He did not try to defend himself this time. He knew it was over. I saw the signs, I discovered his ways, he was naked in front of me. I threw him out and never turned back again to him. He cursed me for some time in sms but I blocked him EVERYWHERE and moved on. In 2012 february he called me from an unknown number. I discovered it was him and sent him straight to hell. Since then he does not disturb me, however he leaves slimy and ass-licking comments on my mothers profile on Facebook.

These men are all EXTREMELY talented psychologists, they are the greatest actors and manipulators of our age. My old scammers could easily create the impression of a wealthy, well-educated gentleman with absolutely serious intentions. He could convince my parents of this. My parents are quite experienced and critical people but even they believed him He was coming in and out of my life for a total of 7 years. The story ended with me going for a visit to Algeria and seeing where he comes from. I was disillusioned of the lies and the barbarity that I discovered and broke up my engagement with him ine month before we were supposed to marry.

As an example of how they disrespect us: one day when he was in my flat here in Europe, we were sleeping in one room with my mother for one night ( we had only one room in that apartment) and he wanted to make love to me!!! That is all about respect. In islam this is such a huge disrespect that I should have known in that very moment that he is a real dangerous beast, a bastard. In Algeria he can not even hold your hand in front of his mother. But here he behaves as if we were all grown in some brothels.

What can I say... I am disgusted. If you have any respect for your emotional and physical well-being, forget this guy and all muslim men and stay as far away from them as possible.

They have no respect or tolerance for western culture. Islam is not compatible with western cultures or Christian values. It is DESIGNED TO BE INCOMPATIBLE with anything but their own insane vievs.

Take a look at some articles discussing this topic. Learn about the Quran and what it teaches and allows to muslims. Watch the short film " Fitna" on youtube. This is not extremism. Islam has NO MODERATE form. Islam is not tolerant with any other religions. There is no such thing as modern and moderate muslims. Islam is the LAW of muslim countries. It is the base of their culture and inseparable from everyday matters, such as education, law, family matters, health care, life conduct. In most muslim countries there is no secularization and religion and politics are ONE. And we are simply not compatible with them. I tried tens of times with different muslim men to prove the opposite. It is not possible. They are not for us!

Submitting....

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2Be careful [41 words]Catherine Elaine PeppersFeb 4, 2023 14:50264747
good evening catherine [208 words]MimiFeb 5, 2023 16:02264747
20To Brainwashed Smasher about the true meaning of nikah [505 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 01:44264398
16To Sherry: Veils for answering the nature's call, the Muslim men's right to rape the unveiled women [345 words]A very concerned readerFeb 26, 2021 14:24264318
25About the houris [690 words]A very concerned readerFeb 23, 2021 00:17264210
22To N and S: some replies to your questions and resources for you! [632 words]A very concerned readerFeb 18, 2021 18:26264041
36Long Live the Non-Muslim [847 words]AliciaFeb 18, 2021 15:37264035
15So beautifully written. Real facts. Why Islam can't be compared to other religions [353 words]A very concerned readerFeb 19, 2021 15:43264035
5Breath Taking and True Post [15 words]ChelseaMar 16, 2021 19:18264035
27Talking about morals: to Alicia on her last post which by the way I love! [314 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 00:03263953
18Reply to A very concerned reader [115 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 17, 2021 00:04263953
22A mix of fear, convenience, jealousy and pride: women's role in Islam [652 words]A very concerned readerFeb 18, 2021 04:44263953
6Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 18, 2021 13:06263953
17Muslims Countries vs The rest of the World [305 words]AliciaFeb 18, 2021 13:52263953
13Muslim's misgiving [167 words]PrashantFeb 18, 2021 16:33263953
14Wrong religion, wrong site! [84 words]A very concerned readerFeb 19, 2021 16:06263953
7100 percent correct [68 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 20, 2021 01:34263953
8Well said a Very concerned reader [153 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 20, 2021 01:52263953
12Here's a nice example [79 words]JeffFeb 20, 2021 21:21263953
8Oh, The houris... [441 words]A very concerned readerFeb 20, 2021 23:52263953
11Once again, one-sided love [66 words]A very concerned readerFeb 22, 2021 13:33263953
1Failure to Notice Where Devotion to God is Supreme in Eternity [211 words]M ToveyFeb 22, 2021 15:38263953
4Haha A concerned reader [12 words]jessica (canada)Feb 22, 2021 18:43263953
14A God with no compassion, a reward full of lust [116 words]A very concerned readerFeb 22, 2021 22:48263953
2Very well said [5 words]PrasthantFeb 23, 2021 22:09263953
11Recovery [76 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:35263953
4Relationships that Serve the Prideful Self Always Breaks the Hearts of Others [366 words]M ToveyFeb 24, 2021 12:49263953
9NPD in Muslim men and Ali Sina [317 words]A very concerned readerFeb 24, 2021 13:25263953
9Very nice reflection, M Tovey: time comes when the only thing you see is the Muslim man [358 words]A very concerned readerFeb 25, 2021 01:35263953
4Objection on Religious Grounds - Men and Women Equal in Eyes of Heaven, Salvation [479 words]M ToveyFeb 26, 2021 18:53263953
9Narcissist destroy, empaths create: a selfish religion to cater one man's needs? [483 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 15:06263953
2Correction [45 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 17:43263953
3Male-Female Emotional Disparity - Seeking Common Ground of Love [342 words]M ToveyMar 2, 2021 13:31263953
5Sowing what we truly embrace and want to reap! [314 words]A very concerned readerMar 3, 2021 02:48263953
5Emotional Survival of the Most Desperate Kind [438 words]M ToveyMar 4, 2021 11:49263953
8To N and S [233 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:19263845
17Thank you FAtou [88 words]BaboonFeb 9, 2021 12:49263786
9Hi Jessica [190 words]N and SFeb 9, 2021 15:57263786
10N and S [228 words]LinaFeb 9, 2021 17:05263786
19It's more dangerous than people may think [254 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:57263786
8Very good points [213 words]LinaFeb 10, 2021 22:17263786
7Very true [120 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:22263786
7N and S [471 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:09263786
4N and S reply [645 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 18:23263786
7Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 17, 2021 16:51263786
3WEAK [23 words]alanaSep 12, 2021 07:00263786
48To Fatou/Adja, to the immigration officers of Western countries, to this forum readers. To those googling "I'm in love with a Muslim man" [812 words]A very concerned readerFeb 9, 2021 00:36263772
17I wish I could raise a toast to this [174 words]AliciaFeb 10, 2021 01:16263772
11Cheers! [230 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:16263772
5Let's raise* that toast!!! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 15:11263772
11I could not agree more! [178 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 01:10263772
19Why they don't like Christianity [713 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 06:28263772
10Big hypocrite [222 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 09:16263772
14Hijab and the hypocrisy of it [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:13263772
4Where is the Truth Hiding When No One is Looking for it [233 words]M ToveyFeb 11, 2021 21:35263772
14My insight about Islam and why a Non Muslim woman can fit in this ideology [648 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 00:18263772
2Why Non Muslim women can't fit* [14 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 01:18263772
18Their lives and hearts are so dark [102 words]Ella AustraliaFeb 14, 2021 23:54263772
11Why they don't like Christianity [19 words]Lisa D.Feb 15, 2021 12:35263772
1Why Eternal Fulfillment is of Love/Respect is Hard to See [282 words]M ToveyFeb 15, 2021 18:02263772
7Well said, Islam has straight jacketed itself into self destruction. [139 words]PrasthantFeb 15, 2021 18:30263772
12Same feeling here, Ella, while we make great efforts to integrate their culture [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 02:18263772
2Basis of Anthipathy Towards Judeo-Christian (Messianic) Beliefs [220 words]M ToveyFeb 19, 2021 21:55263772
3Great Truth teachings on Islam [99 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:56263772
5Veils for answering the nature's call, the Muslim men's right to rape the unveiled women [338 words]A very concerned readerFeb 26, 2021 06:33263772
4Muslim dislike Christian / Christians have POWER over them [7 words]BrendaSep 17, 2021 15:28263772
7Hijab should not be used to exemplify diversity [274 words]PrashantFeb 7, 2021 01:39263720
21To Fatou: we wish we were discarded by your men!/ Thank us for warning you that they don't respect you either [335 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 15:12263711
10Ladies here last comment [146 words]FatouFeb 6, 2021 09:56263707
Rat or not? [106 words]MimiAug 16, 2021 15:20263707
10Muslim Men will NEVER Marry a 53 year old Woman [243 words]AliciaAug 16, 2021 21:34263707
Female 53 years old. [102 words]MimiAug 17, 2021 14:42263707
5Hijab should not be presented as a symbol of diversity [159 words]PrashantFeb 6, 2021 01:47263699
7Hijab as a political statement [45 words]Lisa D.Feb 9, 2021 15:10263699
4Lina reply [90 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 17:30263683
12Fatou: We wish they discard us!/ you should thank us for warning you [247 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 14:57263683
4I would just leave it be [64 words]AjdaFeb 8, 2021 02:01263683
11Hmmm Fatou we all wonder [66 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:51263683
5Ajda [7 words]FatouFeb 8, 2021 15:39263683
11Fatou's self-righteousness stinks [110 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 18:12263683
3Married [25 words]To Jessica canadaFeb 11, 2021 10:11263683
5Big hypocrites too!!! [263 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 10:51263683
9Religion over Science [77 words]Lisa DFeb 11, 2021 12:35263683
5Gifts [12 words]LinaFeb 11, 2021 15:48263683
19Marriage means nothing in Islam, my dear [101 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 18:04263683
6Reply about Married- and why are you using my name [143 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 16:23263683
13Islam is the worst, Muslim countries will never prosper they just get worse [87 words]AliciaFeb 12, 2021 17:33263683
6Alicia is right about Islam [96 words]PrashantFeb 15, 2021 18:42263683
6Cannot say Merry Christmas in here. [43 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 15, 2021 22:34263683
9You're very right, that's why our women need to be aware of this [300 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:12263683
7Big thank you and my best wishes always [263 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:37263683
2Rat?? [99 words]MimiAug 18, 2021 05:17263683
1ROP celebrations in Dhaka [184 words]PrashantApr 5, 2022 21:00263683
Another violent incidence in Tel Aviv [122 words]PrashantApr 7, 2022 21:03263683
14The true face of a real Muslim Woman [1019 words]AliciaFeb 5, 2021 13:58263674
21To Fatou: Muslimahs are deceived too. Are you surprised? [294 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:14263670
4We all wait for Fatou reply to your comments [11 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:56263670
2Lina [144 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:16263662
1Explain to concerned reader [145 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:08263661
16Your points [64 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 13:54263661
21Correction and more unreplied questions [209 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 14:43263661
14Purpose of the board [233 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 17:34263661
8Things that happen in males parties and when nobody is watching [39 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 20:01263661
12I'll take what I want from your culture and insult the rest [125 words]JeffFeb 5, 2021 20:44263661
16The reasons why Fatou is here and the controversial respect topic [290 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 16:03263661
3Lina and other who take this tone in comments [107 words]FatouFeb 7, 2021 09:55263661
7Don't forget [144 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:38263661
6Thank you [125 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:48263661
5Or better still [18 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:50263661
8So true, Lina [123 words]A concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:15263661
3Thanks to you too! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:52263661
8That is why Muslims (and the reader Fatou) need education [157 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 17:59263661
26Muslim Marriages the REAL WAY [1437 words]AliciaFeb 4, 2021 23:03263645
12What a good picture of Pakistani societal system [281 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:58263645
7Yes muslim will never like non-muslim [86 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:07263645
6This part is so true Alicia [387 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:45263645
1Pipes Response/Our Religion [36 words]FatouFeb 4, 2021 16:31263624
3Teaching basic Arabic to wannabe Arabs our dear Fatou [241 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:14263624
4Guiding the perplexed our dear Fatou and deciphering the Arabic language [97 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:29263624
1Our dear Fatou and the word الصلوة/الصلاة (PRAYER) in the Qur'an [398 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 6, 2021 07:50263624
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AjdaFeb 8, 2021 09:53263624
23About arranged marriages: what Western women must know [299 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 22:30263589
19In response to Fatou 2: It's all about respect [123 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 17:55263578
10A very concerned reader: The correct translation of صلى الله عليه وسلم is not the PBUH nonsense [158 words]
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dhimmi no moreFeb 3, 2021 15:07263571

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