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Submitted by Av Moiden (Qatar), Nov 2, 2013 at 14:34

Dear Sir,

With due respect I would like to say as follows:

Firstly, if there is any other definition for ignorance that will be word 'Allen'. Otherwise, no would dare to say such studded lies that Islam advocates to kill non-believers, poor guy.....deplored .

Secondlly, Islam was not founded by Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). It is a continuation of his predecessors advocated i.e. Abraham (PBUH), Moses (PBUH), Jesus (PBUH), etc.

Thirdly, Islam always been in defensive position because its stance for Tawheed which was not digestive for those people who were doing pagan era practices.

Lastly, allegations of people like Mr. Allan is a boost for us to be more strong and sincere Muslims thus thank you Mr. Allen for such allegations with filmsy justificaitons.

Thank you again Mr. Allen, go ahead and keep it up until you get Hidhaya.......May Almingty God bless you.

Regards,

Av Moiden

Doha - Qatar

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2misguided and misinformed [177 words]Guardian of DeenNov 1, 2013 21:55210897
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2Poor Guy.............with full ignorance and simmering hatred. [58 words]AV MoideenNov 16, 2013 11:59210897
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2Dimmi keep it up [147 words]Av MoidenNov 24, 2013 13:35210897
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