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I predict the same: Islamism will collapse when the Muslims get a good taste of it

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Submitted by cyrus (United States), May 27, 2013 at 01:47

I grew up in Iran and personally witnessed how within 2 decades of Islamist rule, not only did the people turn against Islamism, but they did so against Islam as a whole.

Islamism not only didn't strengthen Islam, but it is leading to collapse of Islam. I think the increase in access to information as well as the freedom of speech and debate that social media such as Facebook and Twitter have provided, will accelerate the process of collapse of Islam. Once-secularists are the first to turn against Islam as a way pf protest against Islamist rule; then the rest get disillusioned and begin to follow.

I see a similar but much slower de-Islamization taking place in other countries such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Afghanistan and Pakistan, as Muslims begin to realize that Islam not only will not restore power and prosperity, but it is the very reason they have fallen behind the rest of the world. As Islamists and the political nature of Islam make it impossible to reform it, so leaving Islam becomes the only solution.

When basic universal needs replace the religious and ideological ones, Islam will no longer offer a solution to Muslims. In case of Turkey, I think it shifted toward Islamism with the hope to restore an Islamic empire over Sunni Arab nations; despite ten years of Islamist AKP leadership, the Turkish system is still secular and Islamism is more a foreign policy expression than a domestic one0. Another cause of that shift toward Islamism in Turkey was economic advantage, the Saudis and Arab states heavily invested their oil $$ in the Turkish economy and paid it to act like a natural ally,

The Turks are very religious Muslims, a lot more religious than Iranians based on my experience living in both countries. Most Turks attend mosques on daily basis while less than 5% of Iranians do, however the Turks aren't big fans of political and militant teachings of Islam, many of them have anti-Western views as Islam teaches them that Muslims are superior and have a fascist form of nationalism and becomes worse when mmized with Islam, but you never hear of Turkish Jihadi suicide bombers or Islamist terror groups led by Turkey (although they may be aiding the Jihadists in Syria indirectly). Even the AKP has no interest in replacing Assad with an Islamist ruler; even in Egypt and Tunisia Erdogan tried to promote a secular system similar to the Turkish constitution (that was attacked by the theocrats in Iran).

Still, I totally agree with you with the main point, Islamism is at its height and is going to head toward a collapse soon, it was another ideological political experiment and once we get rid of the mullahs in Iran, their main role model will disappear.

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