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Israel and the Maronites and the Copts

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 18, 2013 at 07:05

Yuval wrote

First, we have been here for far far longer. israel is the only sovereignty which was re-established, for the third time, after a two-millenia hiatus

Sure and this is great and I'm not even debating this

Second, both the Copts and the Maronites came before Islam,

Very true and as a matter of fact the Church of St. Mark (el-Morqusiyya) is the oldest institution not just in Egypt but also in the Middle East and it existed for about 2000 years and this speaks volumes for such an instiution

and are now being wiped out by islam.

I'm sure the fathers of the Coptic Church were saying some 1500 years ago that their church could be wiped by the Melkites (the imperial Byzantine Church in Egypt) and at the time of the time of the Persian invasion of Egypt in 616CE their churches was subjected to total destruction all over Egypt and then we have the Muslim/Arab invasion of Egypt and more destuction and the disasters go on and on until this day but the Copts and their Church are still there and they wil be there long after Islamism is a thing of the past

The trick of being obliterated is one I have no wish to learn though my father narrowly escaped the Nazi calamity.

With my respect to you and to the memory of the Jewish victims of Nazism, you are comparing apples and oranges. The Copts have always been in Egypt and they will always be there

Copts and Maronites have adapted to Dhimmitude so well,

I do not see anything wrong with trying to survive so do you have a problem with their survival?

they would rather side with islam against the Jews.

Again you are missing the point did you really understand what I wrote? let me help you: there is a disconnect between the Jewish state and the Copts and the Maronites like or not

That is why they are going down.

Again both groups the Copts and the Maronites have been throught this before and they will survive it

They did not believe in their own bible which truthfully foretells Jewish resurrection.

Yuval: Spare me this one I study history and I do not believe in what the Qur'an calls asateer al-awaleen or the "religious history/the books of the ancients" (read this as pious fiction) of the Jews and the Christians

If one does not believe one's own cultural heritage, why survive?

How could you judge others that you do not even seem to know? Let me tell you again these are very old and very sophisitaced groups that can for sure teach the leaders of Israel a trick or two about survival in this part of the world

Jews have always held on to their bible and their treaty with the Lord - and are now vindicated

And what does this have to do with the Copts and the Maronites?

Yuval: It is about time that Israelis and their leaders get to know these minorities and learn how did they survive for so long in that part of the world and realize that might is never the answer

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Legacy of Thatcher. [10 words]Amin RiazApr 19, 2013 00:02205287
Inaccuracy [260 words]Aymenn Jawad Al-TamimiApr 11, 2013 21:18205102
Turkish Hamas alliance against Assad [116 words]Lujack SkylarkApr 17, 2013 00:36205102
First the sabbath people now the Sunday people [37 words]yuvalApr 11, 2013 04:56205079
6The Copts and the maronites and the Chaldeans and the Syrian Christians and Israel [726 words]dhimmi no moreApr 13, 2013 07:53205079
Excellent responses [219 words]YuvalApr 14, 2013 16:08205079
1Dhimmis and other matters [131 words]dhimmi no moreApr 15, 2013 06:44205079
1Dhimmitude [55 words]dhimmi no moreApr 15, 2013 17:27205079
What kind of tricks are those [132 words]yuvalApr 17, 2013 07:13205079
1Israel and the Maronites and the Copts [529 words]dhimmi no moreApr 18, 2013 07:05205079
1Failing to count properly [83 words]Amin RiazApr 19, 2013 00:08205079
1We can only blame Allah [243 words]dhimmi no moreApr 20, 2013 08:06205079
1The 72 virgins and Tamerlan the terrorist and murderer! [61 words]dhimmi no moreApr 20, 2013 09:12205079
1Is there any more. [27 words]Amin RiazApr 20, 2013 19:29205079
1. . . Or the 99 devas [46 words]Amin RiazApr 20, 2013 19:34205079
More questions [103 words]dhimmi no moreApr 21, 2013 06:28205079
Tamerlan in his Allah's heaven! [130 words]dhimmi no moreApr 21, 2013 06:45205079
2Poor Muslim logic at its best [192 words]dhimmi no moreApr 21, 2013 06:52205079
2Our dear Amin did not answer my questions because he does not have answers [446 words]dhimmi no moreApr 21, 2013 07:52205079
2Islam and the lies of its enablers! [175 words]dhimmi no moreApr 21, 2013 13:22205079
3Tablighees and their delusions [231 words]dhimmi no moreApr 21, 2013 13:33205079
1I smell the Islamic love between the Sunnis and the Shi3a in Egypt [273 words]dhimmi no moreApr 21, 2013 17:08205079
The Merry-Go-Round [109 words]Amin RiazApr 21, 2013 20:38205079
The question of "Best Interest" [263 words]Amin RiazApr 21, 2013 21:02205079
3Q5:33 takes away every inch that Q5:32 gives [178 words]PrashantApr 21, 2013 22:26205079
1The enablers of islamists and Q5:32 [812 words]dhimmi no moreApr 22, 2013 06:33205079
3Exposing the lies of tablighees and Q5:32 [186 words]dhimmi no moreApr 22, 2013 06:57205079
1Muslims and their enablers and Q5:32 [107 words]dhimmi no moreApr 22, 2013 07:09205079
RE: The enablers of islamists and Q5:32 [107 words]Amin RiazApr 23, 2013 00:50205079
RE: Muslims and their enablers and Q5:32 [188 words]Amin RiazApr 23, 2013 01:00205079
An attempt to divert [81 words]Amin RiazApr 23, 2013 01:26205079
1I smell the Islamic love between the Sunnis and the Shi3a in Egypt part two [152 words]dhimmi no moreApr 25, 2013 07:28205079
1Our dear Amin agrees with me that Muslims are not the subject in Q5:32 which means that enablers of Islamists are a bunch of liars [96 words]dhimmi no moreApr 25, 2013 07:45205079
Exposing tablighee twists and turns! [232 words]dhimmi no moreApr 25, 2013 08:02205079
2Now we move on to Q5:33 annd warning do not read this verse before you go to bed! [424 words]dhimmi no moreApr 25, 2013 14:07205079
Useless diversions [46 words]Amin RiazApr 25, 2013 20:56205079
An Easy Exposition [168 words]Amin RiazApr 25, 2013 21:00205079
Sorry to burst your bubble old son . . . I don't agree with you. Lame attempt! [166 words]Amin RiazApr 25, 2013 21:28205079
We aint moving anywhere - you can jump where you like. . . . [194 words]Amin RiazApr 25, 2013 21:35205079
Is al-Ahmadiyya Kufr? Oh I smell the Muslim love [36 words]dhimmi no moreApr 26, 2013 07:23205079
1Tablighee twists and turns again and this time al-Tabari [1752 words]dhimmi no moreApr 26, 2013 07:38205079
1And this time Ibn kathir and if the subjects of Q5:32 were indeed Muslims the world would not have any islamic terrorism right our dear Amin al-Tablighee? [1016 words]dhimmi no moreApr 26, 2013 08:17205079
Baby steps and tablighees [88 words]dhimmi no moreApr 26, 2013 08:24205079
1al-kalam al-mukarar and our dear Amin the lost tablighee [447 words]dhimmi no moreApr 26, 2013 08:56205079
8Exposing fabrications and the Quranic disaster 5:32 and enablers of Islamists [559 words]dhimmi no moreApr 26, 2013 09:25205079
2I smell the Islamic love between the Sunnis and the Shi3a in Egypt part three [408 words]dhimmi no moreApr 26, 2013 18:22205079
1I smell the Islamic love between the Sunnis and the Shi3a in Egypt part four [114 words]dhimmi no moreApr 26, 2013 18:34205079
More pretences exposed [447 words]Amin RiazApr 26, 2013 20:37205079
In how NOT to answer [36 words]Amin RiazApr 26, 2013 20:40205079
Amuse yourself [21 words]Amin RiazApr 26, 2013 21:34205079
A 9-point answer! [847 words]Amin RiazApr 26, 2013 21:52205079
3Q5:32 and ayat al-sayf or the infamous Q9:5 and who says that Islam was not spread by the sword! [485 words]dhimmi no moreApr 28, 2013 13:15205079
3Sorry to burst your little bubble and the bubble of the enablers of Islamists and wannabe Arabs and our clueless leaders [506 words]dhimmi no moreApr 28, 2013 14:07205079
Repeat - when all else fails! [347 words]Amin RiazApr 29, 2013 20:53205079
Failure of Copy & Paste [184 words]Amin RiazApr 29, 2013 20:58205079
I like it! [71 words]Amin RiazMay 3, 2013 20:15205079
2Egyptian sheikh rapes a 12 year old boy in an Egyptian Mosque [208 words]dhimmi no moreMay 8, 2013 11:49205079
Sexual crimes by Muslims are irrelevant to this forum [100 words]PrashantMay 8, 2013 22:51205079
Here is an example of why the Copts and the Maronites have no link with Israel [125 words]dhimmi no moreMay 14, 2013 08:27205079
Lets see if I get this... [49 words]Lori J.Mar 26, 2014 09:45205079
That is stating it strongly [31 words]yuval Brandstetter MDMar 28, 2014 10:28205079
this piece started with the marvelous margaret thatcher [19 words]jacob sassoonApr 10, 2013 19:11205071
Moving forward or regressing [24 words]David W. LincolnApr 10, 2013 11:57205066

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