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Submitted by Ali Baba (United States), Feb 7, 2013 at 19:58

Really? so let me see them bad Christians and Jews chop arms, stone women, kill gays, marry six year old girls, convert idolators by force or kill them, aquire slaves, have concubines, have sex with the dead wife, breast feed adult co-workers, divorce wives if they eat too much, be a liar in the cause of their Allah, kill and get killed in the cause of their Allah, collect al-jizya aka mafia tax, give 1/5 of the loot to their Allah etc...

There are rather unsavory elements to all faiths, including no faith. Apart from the fact that almost none of what you stated is actually a part of Islamic scripture, throwing stones from a glass house really isn't very becoming, Mr/Ms Dhimmi.

Take for example that the Pentateuch contains injunctions for killing your kids if they talk back, incest by Lot, and adultery of King David. There's also injunctions to stone psychics and mediums to death, and death for adultery.

Since you're such a good score-keeper, Dhimmi, why don't we compare scriptures? The God of the Bible commanded Joshua to the wholescale genocide of combatants, non-combatants, and even animals and carry off the plunder of Ai. The God of the Quran commands war against "those who fight against you" and only came after Muhammad's eviction from his home during the Hijra.

The fact that you believe God to be good for ordering the deaths of all people and even animals when stated in the Bible, but God is evil for allowing self-defense only against combatants when in the Quran, exposes you as prejudicial hypocrite.

Or is it really a case of your stool smelling sweeter than mine?


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1The Dark Ages of Islamic countries [273 words]AlexandrosFeb 28, 2013 11:08203934
They wont accept the facts and the logic. [123 words]AtheistFeb 14, 2013 02:18203484
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Advocating a Betrayal of Conservatism? [280 words]Ali BabaFeb 5, 2013 16:25203214
2More gems from our dear Ali Baba [294 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 6, 2013 07:37203214
Fact check please [278 words]Ali BabaFeb 7, 2013 19:58203214
1Scripture comparison is simplistic and narrow [162 words]saraFeb 7, 2013 20:20203214
Facts ARE always simplistic [101 words]Ali BabaFeb 7, 2013 22:15203214
Does the goalpost shift for Islam? [184 words]Ali BabaFeb 7, 2013 22:33203214
3Our dear Ali Baba is saying that Islam is violent and as if we did not know [937 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 8, 2013 06:52203214
1Our dear Ali Baba quotes the Bible to prove a point which means that he disagrees with Allah astaghfirullah [129 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 8, 2013 06:59203214
Dhimmi makes a good point [41 words]Ali BabaFeb 9, 2013 00:24203214
3Our dear Ali Baba is saying that Islam is violent and as if we did not know part two [765 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 9, 2013 06:20203214
Certainly... [177 words]Ali BabaFeb 10, 2013 03:45203214
3Teaching one tablighee at a time [1710 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 10, 2013 08:02203214
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