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Submitted by myth (Germany), Nov 23, 2012 at 05:00

Prashant,

the standpoint of secular principles such as individual freedom is valid for the US. That country was founded a nation of immigrants, many of them seeking freedom of religion. Europe is different. It is a weak standpoint for me to stand in the shadow of a 150meter high cathedral in Cologne and defend freedom against islamists with the word "secular".

My standpoint is this: In the context of European culture, Islam is a a religion of lesser value to society than Christianity is. I am convinced, my standpoint is the only one solid enough to confront the islamists. It stands on the ground of over a thousand yeas of history with many of our now secular institutions coming in part from the Catholic Church (such as libraries). European culture, Christianity and Judaism, the secular state, are all linked by history here in Europe. If one promotes that culture and religion one promotes individual freedom along with it.

In India a similar argument applies. It is an argument I cannot make in substance for I have no profound of knowledge of India.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
1The issue is the refusal of Muslims to acknowledge reality [257 words]saraFeb 26, 2013 17:16203884
I wish I could share your optimism [84 words]Stephen B.Nov 24, 2012 11:15200906
2belief in institutions [90 words]mythNov 17, 2012 07:35200728
1Biggest beneficiary of freedom are those who want to curb freedom [232 words]PrashantNov 22, 2012 17:46200728
weakness of the secular standpoint in context [182 words]mythNov 23, 2012 05:00200728
6Moderate Muslims [125 words]MarkNov 14, 2012 12:51200587
No such thing as moderate Muslim [75 words]PrashantNov 22, 2012 17:56200587

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