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The price for Islam's contribution to America's war on China is dismantling Israel.

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Aug 11, 2012 at 01:49

Martin Kaufman writes :

> My own view is somewhat "agnostic." The interests of the US and Israel are not necessarily identical. Whether they converge enough, not enough or too much is a matter of opinion.<

Interests are not a matter of opinion at all but they are quite objective and tangible. They can be defined and even quantified (in terms of profit/power maximization) and lead to quite predictable behavior to promote them.

The preeminent interest of the US includes remaining the sole superpower cost what it may and preventing any rival from achieving a level from which he could challenge the US world hegemony. As the only such rival at present is China it is clear that the US is doing its best/worst to destroy this rival. And as at the same time as the US is paralyzed economically with debt which it owes to the same rival it wants to eliminate it must use a different strategy to achieve its goal than either economic strangulation as the US itself is being strangulated with debt or open war. China is after all also a nuclear power. The only option is undermining China from within and Islam is as always an ideal tool to bring about chaos, anarchy and political and social disintegration.This is the reason why the US has been in bed with this monster for decades now. But Islam wants something in exchange too and it is Israel that it is a thorn in its ar... and so it wants to devour it.

> The same can be said of US-United Kingdom, US-Canada, US-Germany, US-Japan, US-India, US-Pakistan, US-Russia, etc., etc. relations. <

I find it very misleading to consider any US- x-state relation it terms of just two players, especially when you substitute x with Israel. How can you understand what any Israeli feels towards the US government if you leave out of sight the abject buttock-licking attitude of the same US government towards sworn enemies of Israel like Saudi Arabia, Qatar,Turkey, the UAE ? To put it bluntly , you have to spy on the US for otherwise one day you may be surprised by US-made napalm bombs falling on your cities from Turkish or Saudi (ie. again US-made) planes. With that kind of "friend" any trust is unjustified and no precaution is superfluous. Note also that the Israeli politicians had to admit that state of affairs. Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to Washington said some two years ago : "There is no crisis in Israel-US relations because in a crisis there are ups and downs. [Instead] relations are in a state of tectonic rift in which continents are drifting apart." And it was before the so called "Arab(=Radical Islamist) Spring" was initiated by the US.


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1Spy vs. Spy, America Vs. Israel...Money laundering is a part of supporting terrorism too. [188 words]AnneAug 10, 2012 16:16197798
sensible blog [163 words]john w mcginleyAug 8, 2012 11:41197751
3Israel as espionage threat [101 words]Martin KaufmanAug 7, 2012 16:58197737
4Great minds think alike! [24 words]There is NO Santa ClausAug 8, 2012 23:01197737
7America will sacrifice Israel if its global interests require dismantling Israel. [422 words]IanusAug 10, 2012 07:46197737
1Spying among friends [196 words]Martin KaufmanAug 10, 2012 16:53197737
5The price for Islam's contribution to America's war on China is dismantling Israel. [458 words]IanusAug 11, 2012 01:49197737
3The USA Vs. Israel James Bond type relations [203 words]NuritGAug 7, 2012 15:47197732
1I disagree, Nurit [79 words]There is NO Santa ClausAug 9, 2012 08:23197732
2Spy vs. Spy, America vs Israel- I wouldn't trust the U.S. government as far as I could throw it! response to Nurit G [207 words]AnneAug 10, 2012 16:02197732
4The world is a crazy place where the inmates run the asylum. [439 words]NuritGAug 10, 2012 17:58197732
1The World is a crazy place where inmates run the Asylum--Very Well Said unequivocally True. reply to Nurit G. [376 words]AnneAug 10, 2012 18:41197732
Telling the truth, one set of eyes at a time! [289 words]NuritGAug 12, 2012 00:20197732
1The World is a place Where inmates run the Asylum. More evident everyday. [319 words]AnneAug 12, 2012 20:52197732
7If you stand back from the trees and look at the forest... [38 words]There is NO Santa ClausAug 7, 2012 15:46197731
Whom should we believe ? [227 words]Göran BurensteinAug 7, 2012 15:01197729

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