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Until? perhaps you meant to say Unless?

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Submitted by sara (United States), Jun 21, 2012 at 17:27

Because if you did mean to say 'Until Muslims attempt to impose themselves on us through force", then you just defeated your argument singlehandedly. People who are realists and who have lived in ME countries are familiar with the dilemma of dictators and despots vs the will of the people being Islamist. It is a great quandary that we face now, to follow our morals and guiding principles in freeing people from corrupt and cruel leaders, or allow the Muslim Brotherhood and sharia law to engulf the society. I assure you, neither one is a desirable outcome. However, that said, it is more in our interests to keep the sharia stuff contained rather than spreading out to us. So therefore it is very much our business to see what happens and impact what we can, despite the dilemma of the outcome. Because we both know that if Islamists come to power, your prophecy will come true in short order.

As you said, the fundamental problem with free will is that we cannot control the outcome of elections. But we can be quite sure that Islamists will seamlessly step in and take advantage of the so-called free will. The truth is, my friend, there is no 'free will' in a Muslim country. You are applying western concepts to the Middle East. Democratic and independent thought are not integrated into the culture, and we can only hope that eventually with internet access, they will evolve. For now, I hate to say it, but for the most part, these peoples will be led, whether by a corrupt despot or a religious fanatic. That is the reality.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
5Islam is more primitive than medieval [190 words]EmilyJun 27, 2012 14:55196754
5Well answered -Islam is changing to the worse [123 words]Michael Hanni MorcosJun 13, 2012 12:25196314
8The liberal age revisited [266 words]dhimmi no moreJun 13, 2012 08:30196303
6Those days are gone [208 words]Michael Hanni MorcosJun 14, 2012 11:34196303
We never had Egypt to lose [76 words]SchillsJun 20, 2012 20:31196303
Islamic Liberalism will make a comeback [40 words]SchillsJun 20, 2012 20:35196303
1Until? perhaps you meant to say Unless? [273 words]saraJun 21, 2012 17:27196303
3Main Problem in Main street [80 words]Michael Hanni MorcosJun 21, 2012 18:28196303
So how will you determine when Egyptians can rule themselves? [167 words]SchillsJun 21, 2012 19:01196303
4Sad reality to try to convey [438 words]saraJun 21, 2012 19:29196303
Nasser is your example of a good secular leader? [271 words]SchillsJun 22, 2012 16:25196303
Islamist government [129 words]steveNJun 22, 2012 16:47196303
1No, Nasser was an example of a more secular period [304 words]saraJun 22, 2012 20:03196303
Democratic Islamists are more desirable than secular despots [95 words]SchillsJun 23, 2012 15:28196303
3tablighee nonsense [34 words]dhimmi no moreJun 26, 2012 06:56196303
2Debate About Are Islam and Democracy compatible [63 words]saraJun 26, 2012 17:55196303
4No Democracy in Islam [70 words]dhimmi no moreJun 27, 2012 17:57196303

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