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Submitted by Martin Horan (United Kingdom), Jun 7, 2012 at 19:00

Hi, Deborah. I agree with you wholeheartedly. The whole thing, like anti-Semitism, is spiritual. Of course, it gets worse as time goes on. Those of us who know the Bible, whether we be Jews or Christians, can only expect that. It is prophesied in God's Word to happen and it is happening as prophesied.

Perhaps you know the prophecies as well as I.

The thing with the Ishamelites and their kin, is that they claim to believe in prophecy and a god, though not God. (Even their Isa is a false Christ if you compare him to the Christ of the Bible.) However, they do believe in absolutes and many Moslems are actually turning to Christ. Ironically, Jews for Jesus and other similar messianic groups are winning more Moslems to Christ than the mainstream "churches".

I am sure it's because Moslems are absolutists that they can understand the Bible--when they actually read it properly--and that is why they are not attracted to episcopalian or Anglican groups which are actually pseudo-Catholic. (I say so as a former Roman Catholic which, like Alexandrian Orthodox, has a long history of anti-Semitism.) They would consider such groups as highly idolatrous. And I would sympathise with them on that point.

So, though you rightly say that we would not use a mousetrap to catch an anaconda, I do think that cut- and-dry answers, if anything, can win Moslems over. I am sure they would hold the same disdain for ecumenism as they would for liberalism in politics. (When liberals are religious they are ecumenical and when ecumenists are political they are liberal. Understandably, as both groups believe a mixture of everything--even conflicting ideas--and nothing!)

I am not sure what Dr Pipe's views are on the UN and the Middle East. I haven't read much of his views from that point. The UN give the appearance that they themselves don't know. My personal belief is that they do have an agenda and the impression that they give of being headless chickens is one of subterfuge.

I have lost count of the number of times they have condemned minute Israel for defending herself against not only overwhelming odds but against an implacable and extrememly vicious opponent. I am fairly certain the the UN themselves have lost count. But if they can have that attitude against the only democracy in the Middle East, how do we know that they won't have that attitude towards other democracies? In fact, we don't know!

Fortunately for Israel, and for all other democratic countries, the Moslem Arabs hate each other as much as the rest of us, causing that animosity to take much of the flack from our democracies.

As a Bible believer, I am fairly certain that we shall soon see an implosion of Islam: The UN's agenda is to create a global power with a global army, government and even a single religion. (I not only get that from Bible prophecy but from what my senses and the daily news tells me. See Bill Salus' book Isralestine on Amazon.) Islam is the most absolutist when it comes to relgion--and politics and culture--and that stands very much in the way of the UN's globalist dream.

Bear in mind that as the leaders of the US, Europe and even Japan, India, and the South Seas nations, go along with the UN's dream, it would make sense for them to gang up on the Islamic nations before they have the ultimate in nuclear power.

Devious as the UN may be, they are not stupid. In my opinion, they couldn't afford to have the Moslem nations with too much strength. They know that Iran and others are awaiting a Madhi and that they believe they have to precipitate a global holocaust to bring him about and so the UN will, I would think, have to prevent that. So all their blatant condemnation of Israel may well be to lull them into a false sense of security. And meanwhile they could still relieve the Arabs of much of their oil.

I hold Bill Salus' view that we are about to see Islam take a beating that will change the whole world view of the Arabs. Note how the so-called Arab Spring has now turned into the Arab nightmare. And it gets worse--just as the Good Book prophesied. It's a pity the UN and the globalists have the wrong god and not God! It's a pity for the Arabs too.


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Refugees [77 words]SandyAug 28, 2012 14:23198235
La propagande visant à délégitimer les droits du Peuple Juif sur Eretz Israël n'est pas nouvelle... [1036 words]Mosche AshkelonJul 12, 2012 23:10197209
1Refugee status [77 words]StasJul 8, 2012 00:29197062
5What Every Free Lebanese Thinks [618 words]Phoenician LebaneseJun 26, 2012 08:17196706
1descendants as refugees applicable to all? [47 words]bernard rossJun 21, 2012 11:39196499
2Outrageous US taxpayer aid [49 words]CharlesJun 12, 2012 23:20196284
1The "fetid, dark heart"? [129 words]Mellvin A. FechterJun 9, 2012 12:52196171
3Obama administration fumbles [62 words]steviasJun 7, 2012 14:46196108
1only half the problem [72 words]peter legurJun 18, 2012 08:18196108
1Yes, but why is that our problem? [151 words]steviasJun 18, 2012 17:37196108
4why is this so different than other historical resettling? [177 words]stanley bJun 7, 2012 14:14196105
You feed a stray cat regularly, it has a litter, you are not absolved of responsibility. [61 words]peter legurJun 19, 2012 05:38196105
2Refugees are not the main issue [136 words]stanley bJun 7, 2012 14:07196104
2What is a real Palestinian [93 words]saraJun 7, 2012 14:02196103
2Why are they singled out? [146 words]StasJun 6, 2012 17:26196077
2Count Palestinian Refugees...Its about Time. [106 words]AnneJun 5, 2012 15:29196052
11948 happened, get over it! [140 words]PacificOceanJun 4, 2012 21:34196036
4The UN and Boneheads [119 words]Jay1Jun 2, 2012 10:50195986
9So-called Palestinians and their lies [1198 words]Martin HoranJun 1, 2012 12:21195971
Palestinian refugee is an icon of islamism unity to grow [237 words]AngelJun 2, 2012 19:59195971
Muslims ... [108 words]fuzzy1Jun 5, 2012 09:10195971
5Islam and lying [1309 words]Martin HoranJun 6, 2012 12:07195971
2Re: the so-called Palestinians [280 words]DEBORAH THE JUDGEJun 7, 2012 10:34195971
1Hi Deborah. [744 words]Martin HoranJun 7, 2012 19:00195971
A late response for Martin [225 words]DEBORAH THE JUDGEJun 21, 2012 23:48195971
Spot on again, Deborah. [453 words]Martin HoranJun 23, 2012 12:08195971
2Count Palestine Refugees? [127 words]JudithMay 31, 2012 17:13195950
1Palestinian Refugees [1435 words]Renee BouvierMay 31, 2012 15:01195946
1Again... [345 words]Peter HerzMay 31, 2012 05:37195932
2male descendants [71 words]mythMay 31, 2012 04:25195929
3Ludicrous [120 words]saraJun 7, 2012 14:29195929
1the compassionate society [95 words]mythMay 31, 2012 04:05195928
1For 64 years UNRWA got away with perparing generations of Arabs to be Jew killers [144 words]NuritGMay 31, 2012 03:50195927
1Solution: No pay check [48 words]AngelJun 4, 2012 18:32195927
1The USA, EU and UN are human rights and social justice abusers [74 words]NuritGJun 5, 2012 01:50195927
4How I became a Palestinian refugee [26 words]
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PeterMay 30, 2012 06:40195911
Lucky man ! [157 words]Jon, a Brit in EurolandMay 31, 2012 05:23195911
Remember this? [29 words]UgriMay 30, 2012 02:44195903
3How to solve the problem? [145 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
John PhilipsMay 30, 2012 00:23195902
1Oxymoron of Arab unity???? [36 words]MosheMay 31, 2012 08:24195902
Then isn't two states the logical solution [50 words]John PhilipsJun 2, 2012 02:43195902
causes of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism [156 words]John PhilipsJun 4, 2012 04:46195902
2Two state, one state keep bombing the other? [23 words]AngelJun 4, 2012 19:36195902
Another possible solution [85 words]John PhilipsJun 5, 2012 07:00195902
2Re: John Phillip, "Another possibility?" [67 words]AngelJun 8, 2012 02:44195902
Two states will NOT work [88 words]StormyJun 10, 2012 22:05195902
1Like we need more terrorists in America [66 words]StormyJun 10, 2012 22:13195902
Jerusalem should be a city of peace [64 words]John PhilipssJun 13, 2012 01:14195902
Palestinians in America [166 words]John PhilipsJun 13, 2012 01:25195902
2A Huge Opportunity [199 words]LizMay 29, 2012 22:37195900
UN definition of refugee routinely extends to descendants if certain conditions are not met [286 words]Esther RileyMay 29, 2012 16:35195896
To be a refugee or to not be a refugee; that is the question [76 words]RebeccaMay 29, 2012 14:38195895
Proliferation of Liberated Palestinian Refugees [152 words]George HaasMay 29, 2012 12:27195894
1A time bomb aimed at the heart of Israel [25 words]MosheMay 29, 2012 12:17195893
within the definition of racism [23 words]mythMay 31, 2012 06:44195893
Moshe, I stand with Israel [241 words]StormyJun 10, 2012 22:40195893
Help me understand [78 words]Ibn IsmailJun 12, 2012 15:20195893
Almighty Eternal Sovereign to Give Israel a New Heart-Ezekiel 36:26-28 [372 words]M. ToveyJun 12, 2012 16:37195893
3why? [138 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJun 13, 2012 08:54195893
An Answer to Help Understand the Judeo-Christianity Connection [333 words]M. ToveyJun 14, 2012 19:25195893
1Time to Clean Out the State Department [54 words]DaveMay 29, 2012 12:07195892
America MUST stand by Israel [56 words]StormyJun 10, 2012 22:44195892
5The Glorious British Mandate for Palestine. [64 words]Jon, a Brit in EurolandMay 29, 2012 11:07195891
1this is depressing [323 words]john w mcginleyMay 29, 2012 10:45195890
World refugee camp avoided through sharia implementation [152 words]Ibn IsmailMay 31, 2012 11:28195890
1Please Spare Us [67 words]Tom DundeeJun 4, 2012 00:44195890
2Ironically - The Previous Comment Connecting Sharia to Slavery [498 words]M. ToveyJun 4, 2012 13:03195890
1Maybe you should do some research before posting comments [120 words]John PhilipsJun 5, 2012 06:53195890
3Beautifully Said [73 words]StormyJun 10, 2012 22:57195890
3... Research? [193 words]Peter HallJun 22, 2012 19:03195890
7The one who should do some research is you our dear John al-tablighee [571 words]dhimmi no moreJun 23, 2012 06:23195890
3Truly a capsule of the state of affairs [121 words]stranchanMay 15, 2012 16:43195616

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