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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Sep 3, 2011 at 22:38

Mr Riaz, well known for making statements without any basis in fact and without evidence , writes:

"What? Have you ever read the Bible? Especially the Old Testament? Jeez! Even Permits incest!"

Despite living in the land of the Infidels - Mr Riaz and other Truthophobes seem to fail to notice that nobody lives by the rules of the Old Testament. Are you not aware that sex with children and incest are illegal and have been on the statute books for hundreds of years? Such abyssmal lack of awareness might lead some to question muslims dealings with children and close relatives - given the proclivities of the 'holy prophet', the imagined image of whom muslims pretend not to worship .

"- here is a nice link:http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible4.htm"

Great - at least Mr Riaz has taken note and this time made at least an attempt to back up some of what he writes with external references. Now - using the same source Mr Riaz has quoted (presumably because he thinks it is an authoritative source) let's investigate some of the claims at that very same site: http://nobeliefs.com/islam.htm

hmmm.... ". I had to make the leap to believing the Holy Book was relative - not absolute, not the literal syllables pronounced by God, but a historical record, written by men 150 years after the Prophet Muhammad's death. In other words, it was just another book."

...."I am a Muslim because I understand why so many Muslims are silent when the Holy Book is invoked to behead captured aid workers, journalists and other Western wanderers. Silence is better than an argument with the author of the Holy Book who has given the command to behead infidels."

"I am not (now) a Muslim because I lost respect for the book and its author and his messenger. I lost respect for them because of their bloodthirsty demands to kill and hate. I now feel the common humanity with those I once shunned: the Jews, Christians, atheists, gays, sinners of all stripes and colours. I lost respect not for Muslims but for what they fear."

"Islam is worse than a plague, worse than leprosy, worse than hunger and famine, which cause bodily damage to humans. Islam slowly, like a canker, gnaws at the soul and the spirit. Islam stops your brain from thinking, and empties out your love and kindness for others. Islam will turn you into a killing machine. We may be able to cure the plague, leprosy and other diseases, but we are unable to deal with Islamists. We can't cure them with medical technology. We can't take them to a doctor to see where it hurts. Once you become an Islamist, no earthly medicines are able to cure you. True Muslims literally have turned into walking missiles."

from the same links we find

"The Narcissistic Allah by Faiyaz Taffakur

A good person never expects anything in return, when he does a good deed to another. He would never expect the other person to thank him for the rest of his life, or bow five times a day before him, nor would he curse him or hate him for not thanking him.

Now examine the concept of Allah in Islam. Muhammad said that Allah did us a favour by creating us (though we never asked him to). Then he DEMANDS that we bow before him five times a day to thank him, and please his vanity by chanting he is great (Allah-oh-Akhbar) and that there is no one else besides him. He doesn't just demand, but threatens to throw us into hell if we do not do this. Also, for those who do not follow him (the non-believers), he secures a burning hell.

Only an evil person would behave thus-use threats and punishments to coerce helpless people to chant his praise five times a day and assure him that there is no one else besides him. If Allah is good, he would be just concerned about our happiness, not to assert his power over us and his vanity. Also, Allah lacks self-esteem, as no person with self respect would force others to respect him and force them not to worship anyone else. A truly great person doesn't need others to tell him he is great and doesn't bully others in praising him only and no one else.

Also, a good person doesn't praise himself. He in fact remains humble even when his accomplishments are praised by others. Only a parasite and a very empty vessel brags about himself and praises himself with his own mouth. Now, let us suppose that the Koran has indeed come from Allah. Witness that the Koran is heavily laced with verses praising Allah. If Allah is the source of the Koran, then he has spared no effort in praising himself. He has called himself the Exalted, the Supreme, the Most Compassionate and Merciful, the Sovereign, the One, The Source of Peace, to just name a few. Not only has he praised himself, but he demands his followers to regularly chant the Koran and praise him with the most fanciful salutations. Based on this, can anyone say that he is good? He is more a petulant, narcissist worthless creature. "

That is a small sample of paragraphs from the site Mr Riaz uses as an authoritative source. Interesting isn't it? So many disaffected ex-muslims - who have been exposed to Mr Riaz's cult and had enough intelligence and insight to see it for what it is - and then had the courage to publicly dump it.

a previous writer states:

"pick and when those Pakistani gangs in the UK groom pre-teen native English girls for sex"

Mr Riaz counters with

".....Straight from the BNP - it pushes this - a racist organisation. bnp.org.uk"

Let's examine the question - is reporting the facts of Pakistani gang rape of young white females a BNP thing?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344218/Asian-sex-gangs-Culture-silence-allows-grooming-white-girls-fear-racist.html

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/08/jack-straw-white-girls-easy-meat

rationalwiki.org/wiki/British_Pakistani_rape

www.drishtikone.com/node/10557

So, no, it's definitely not a phenomena made up by and reported by the BNP. The BNP have no influence on actual crime statistics - especially those of other European countries:

www.eutimes.net/2008/04/scandinavian-countries-face-increasing-numbers-of-rape/

And regarding the attempt to garner the high moral ground by making the accusation of racism at the multi-ethnic BNP, - from the BNP's own site: " We accept that Britain always will have ethnic minorities and have no problem with this as long as they remain minorities and do not change nor seek to change the fundamental culture and identity of the indigenous peoples of the British Isles.

The current open-door policy and unrestricted, uncontrolled immigration is leading to higher crime rates, demand for more housing (driving prices out of the reach of young people), severe extra strain on the environment, traffic congestion, longer hospital waiting lists, lower educational standards, higher income taxes, lower wages, higher unemployment, loss of British identity, a breakdown in community spirit, more restrictive policing, higher council taxes, a shortage of council homes, higher levels of stress and unhappiness and a more atomised society.

India would not tolerate millions of non-Indians taking over that society. Pakistan would not tolerate millions of Hindus or Christians entering that country and changing it from a Muslim society into something else. Japan would not do it; China would not do it – so why should Britain?

Can anyone imagine Saudi Arabia allowing the mass immigration of Christians, so that in a few decades it would no longer be an Islamic country?

Each nation has the right to maintain its own identity. The right of India to remain Indian, the right of China to remain Chinese, the right of Pakistan to remain Pakistani and the right of Saudi Arabia to remain Saudi does not mean that any of these nations "hate" anybody else.

All it means is that they wish to preserve their identity and national existence. This is all the British National Party seeks for Britain – the right to be British.

This is not an extreme demand – it is actually just perfectly normal and completely in line with the rights granted to every other nation and with international law."

Which part of this do foreign nationals or ethnic minorities resident in Britain have a problem with?

The people who have the biggest problem with the BNP are Islamists. The BNP openly states it is against militant islamism ( as are all major parties in virtually all Western countries , Russia, China and India).

Nothing is as scary as truth - when it is not on your side.

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