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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jun 21, 2011 at 16:06

There seem to be few holy things in the so called "Holy Land" and daily bloodsheds and carnages show that human life there definitely is not one of them. This "Holy" Land" is the cradle of wars of religion which inevitably follow from the dubious and very dangerous doctrine of monotheism which has the hubris of declaring all other religions false and unworthy of existence as if anything in the realm of religious beliefs could be verified and the will to suppress and destroy dissenters were a divine duty of every true believer.

Anyway, the devastating external wars, turmoils and violence haven't left the hearts and minds of the inhabitants of this so called "Holy Land" unaffacted. Quite the contrary! They worked as a potent destructive and demoralizing force. Around A.D 360 Gregory of Nyssa said in one of his speeches after visiting Palestine "There is not a single sort of depravity and crime which isn't practiced in that land -adultery,theft.,idolatry, poisoning,malice,envy and murder. But particularly murder is so widespread and common that you can nowhere else find so much readiness to murder as in those parts, where relatives like savage animals jump at the throats of their kinsmen in order to kill one another for cold profit's sake".

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