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Submitted by yasemin (Turkey), Mar 7, 2010 at 22:00

The only untouchables are AKP and their backups. They are taking all the advantage of some laws, which were established not ever thinking that one day some government could use them to the destruction of democracy and republic. Everyone else apart of AKP and their friends are under threath. But the end of the road for them has approached. Ofcourse AKP and their backups still have, who knows which scenarios in their minds to play the victimised, offended poors, as they always do even after 8 years of governance. They are always the victim!

When Turkish Republic was established, it was after a great war towards the occupation forces of the WW1 and also against the sheriat followers inside.

In 1923, after the war, as a new republic, Turkey was only 13 million people, men died in the war. The thirteen million that were left behind had no education, mostly bad health because of the hunger during the wars, no money and lots of debt that belonged to the previous empirement. With Ataturk and his friends' leadership our grandfathers and mothers worked hard, payed all our debts, then built factories and opened schools all over the country, since Arabic letters were not easy to write Turkish Ataturk changed to Latin alphabet and suddenly it was easy to learn read and write. Ataturk made the laws so that women had equal rights with men and had the right to vote before most western women.

Do you think it was easy to do these against some people who still wanted to have empires rather than being a republic. Those days the problem Turkiye dealing was not that we had not more than one party, instead the struggle was to be able to maintain that party and the parliament. Because the radicals were against being republic and wanted a padishah-king. But those days all empirements in the world had ceased. A new era had already started.

Ataturk was the biggest reformist, opening all the doors to a modern way of living. And this revolution is done with the agreement of Turkish people- exept the radicals -, and is the most smooth and bloodless revolution also when compared to all other revolutions in history.

And besides, as I mentioned before, the best Mouslims are in Turkiye since we are Mouslims with our own individual free will. We can see the essence of our religion. Not deceived by the so-called religious leaders - which is forbidden in İslam, religion is between self and Allah, it is forbidden to obey any human being but Allah. If anyone obeys and bends before another human being he is not obeying Allah. all people are equally human. If people are not good to other people,( Mouslim or not), his prayers are not heard by Allah. This is the essence of Islam. And best Mouslims are in Turkiye. Each and evryone has the right to change his/her religion but we do not. Without any force and obligation we are Mouslims individually. One by one. That is Islam. No sheriat laws of the 5th century. Allah says " I gave you brains, so use them to be a real human and real mouslim". With blind faith no one can be a real Mouslim.

Every person has all the right to live his/her religion freely whatever it is, or live as an atheist. We are protected by laws. And forcing religion to each other. That is completely forbidden.

And,

Darkness can never succeed to replace enlightment.

We, majority in Turkiye believe so.

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Damn [5 words]Nazim CairoAug 5, 2013 19:31208811
3Death of The Turkish Republic [263 words]emmettAug 5, 2013 18:52208808
1Our dear Emmett is saying that the Greeks and the Armenians in Turkey are treated as equals! Sobhanallah [37 words]dhimmi no moreAug 6, 2013 06:39208808
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keeping silence and supporting their allies made you the potential supporter of them [172 words]CanMay 6, 2012 20:40185966
5Summing up: Islamists (not the Muslims) in Turkey are programmed to constantly gnaw and chew at the pillars and foundation of the secular Republic of Turkey [451 words]LazmanApr 27, 2010 21:01171782
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so called freedom [465 words]yaseminMar 12, 2010 15:14170020
General Evren & Turkish constitution [170 words]BaranMar 15, 2010 20:57170020
1Baran [53 words]yaseminMar 18, 2010 19:48170020
What kind of change? [169 words]BaranMar 23, 2010 03:36170020
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USA military secrets are now in the hands of Iran and Al-Qaeda !! [34 words]jearrayssiMar 10, 2010 14:03169856
Turkish people [226 words]BaranMar 6, 2010 17:53169786
1Militarist Turkey - a generous customers in the West [744 words]IanusMar 7, 2010 16:11169786
from thirteen million sick and poor to seventy million of today [590 words]yaseminMar 7, 2010 22:00169786
Thanks Yasemin for Turkish democracy [393 words]BaranMar 8, 2010 16:41169786
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." [343 words]IanusMar 8, 2010 17:01169786
yasemin: Turkey follows a religion which wants to impose itself on every human. [1392 words]PlatoMar 8, 2010 22:00169786
Good work Ianus [45 words]BaranMar 11, 2010 04:14169786
1For Baran [80 words]JimMar 11, 2010 14:16169786
Who knows why? [142 words]IanusMar 12, 2010 15:48169786
we take the essence and do not behave like cave men [156 words]yaseminMar 13, 2010 02:10169786
yasemin: You have avoided answering questions raised about the essence of your religion [619 words]PlatoMar 14, 2010 08:02169786
True we learned İslam from Arabs and our ancestors had totally different beiefs. We think the same way for more than eighty years [397 words]yaseminMar 15, 2010 15:16169786
Good news, Jim! [359 words]BaranMar 15, 2010 20:34169786
Our dear Yasmin and more Turkish delusions part deux [133 words]dhimmi no moreMar 16, 2010 07:41169786
Good news, Jim! [332 words]JimMar 17, 2010 15:18169786
yasemin: You have a secular heart constricted by a Muslim mind [1925 words]PlatoMar 17, 2010 22:02169786
A medal for you, Jim [351 words]BaranMar 23, 2010 03:59169786
self-styled?? [361 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 24, 2010 05:36169786
Misguided friend [463 words]BaranMar 26, 2010 21:24169786
A medal for you, Jim [398 words]JimMar 28, 2010 17:56169786
You sound like .... [100 words]BaranMar 30, 2010 02:57169786
no answers [184 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 31, 2010 03:33169786
Mr. Pipes on the current problem in Turkey [27 words]Milton Fried, MDMar 6, 2010 01:16169747
2Exactly [74 words]ates gurbuzMar 6, 2010 20:08169747
99,8 % Islamic Turkey not going Islamic ? [50 words]IanusMar 7, 2010 15:03169747
The easy way to become Secular [34 words]SPAMar 10, 2010 01:12169747
Turkey is not like Iran [111 words]sebnem kanMar 11, 2010 07:34169747
Turkey is like Iran before the Islamic revolution. [274 words]IanusMar 12, 2010 16:04169747
meaning of "secular" [187 words]spaMar 15, 2010 01:01169747
Very Dilillusioning but not inevitable [31 words]barbaraclarkMar 5, 2010 17:42169737
re yasemin's statement on ataturk [59 words]barbaraclarkMar 6, 2010 12:25169737
you are correct [178 words]havasMar 6, 2010 16:37169737
Turkey will go Islamic..Erdogan has now the mentality of Jihad! [59 words]Benny ZeemanMar 7, 2010 09:53169737
thank you [100 words]yaseminMar 7, 2010 22:13169737
I agree [359 words]LogusMar 8, 2010 00:34169737
The Turkey/Iranian paradigm. [270 words]LogusMar 8, 2010 00:46169737
Havas Any country can be declared secular very easily .Just follow Turkey [82 words]spaMar 10, 2010 01:19169737
1One more thread to make a Turkish magic tale of secularism perfect [115 words]IanusMar 10, 2010 09:03169737
1what happened to turks in balkans,crimia,georgia,ıraq,etc etc [131 words]havasMar 10, 2010 11:13169737
cognitive dissonance [165 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 14, 2010 03:16169737
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yasmin on baran [62 words]barbaraclarkMar 22, 2010 09:21169737
it's great that still people like him are writing this... [394 words]A.T.Mar 5, 2010 16:40169733
Turkey & USA [190 words]Sohel Ahmed BahjatMar 5, 2010 04:25169706
so free!!! [278 words]yaseminMar 5, 2010 12:21169706
Our dear Yasmin and more Turkish delusions [576 words]dhimmi no moreMar 6, 2010 15:27169706
To Dear Yasemin, yes Turkey is imperfect country but is the best in the area. [123 words]Sohel Ahmed BahjatMar 7, 2010 05:58169706
economical achievements were not enough [200 words]yaseminMar 7, 2010 22:50169706
just drop it [67 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 12, 2010 03:50169706
The term sobhanallah [372 words]dhimmi no moreMar 13, 2010 08:29169706
incorrect link [139 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 13, 2010 19:12169706
The term araf...and I thought it was a made up falastine term [80 words]SimonMar 19, 2010 12:55169706
The word Araf [93 words]dhimmi no moreMar 20, 2010 18:13169706
Old tactic [207 words]ates gurbuzMar 4, 2010 13:30169682
Yes.. patience. [161 words]yaseminMar 7, 2010 23:22169682
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asleep [75 words]yaseminMar 7, 2010 23:35169664
to yasemin [134 words]havasMar 9, 2010 14:37169664
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To: Ianus [176 words]CagriMar 14, 2010 09:01169642
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"Is" or "was"? [157 words]IanusMar 5, 2010 15:42169625
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1To err is human. [1653 words]IanusMar 7, 2010 14:37169625
Fight for your opinions …. [22 words]LazmanMar 8, 2010 22:27169625
Ianus you are right [32 words]spaMar 9, 2010 02:11169625
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agree [713 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 21, 2010 00:42169625
YOUR COMMENTS ON THE CRISIS IN TURKEY [75 words]JACQUES HADIDAMar 3, 2010 13:27169622
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role of USA [63 words]
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Mehmet SagduyuMar 3, 2010 11:53169611
Whose propoganda? [163 words]JUNEMar 3, 2010 11:04169609
... Turkish history and current problems of the country. [198 words]romantikMar 3, 2010 10:37169605
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Correct, after a fashion. [148 words]LogusMar 4, 2010 14:13169603
The best Mouslims are in Turkiye [333 words]yaseminMar 4, 2010 16:42169603
Yasmin!!! [66 words]spaMar 16, 2010 06:01169603
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Our dear Saed Saed [123 words]dhimmi no moreMar 3, 2010 20:11169596
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Logic Islamic style by no other than our dear Saed Saed who lives among big time kuffar [398 words]dhimmi no moreMar 9, 2010 07:08169596
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1fethullah hareketi cia destekli [63 words]goktugMar 3, 2010 03:29169590
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that's right [35 words]müslümansolcuMar 3, 2010 02:24169586
Yet one more country falling under islamists control ....Mar 2010 [73 words]Phil GreendMar 2, 2010 23:47169584
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I understand, you are traumatized ! [61 words]LazmanMar 3, 2010 23:17169584
A lesson to learn [246 words]IanusMar 6, 2010 17:26169584
The trauma of learning to read and write [131 words]IanusMar 6, 2010 17:46169584
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1Zionists love Ataturk - a comedy of errors [183 words]IanusMar 8, 2010 16:11169584
Don't pick on Fethullah Gulen !! [133 words]LazmanMar 2, 2010 23:35169583
gulen books [52 words]kamilMar 16, 2010 05:38169583
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May be - or may be not [173 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Lars Bjørn Helm NielsenMar 2, 2010 16:30169572
2AKP democratic??... truly funny joke [107 words]bostonianMar 3, 2010 13:18169572
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to Lars Nielsen [37 words]BostonianMar 11, 2010 14:43169572
Unnoticed [146 words]Alan FoxMar 2, 2010 15:59169571
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Eyes and pockets [182 words]IanusMar 6, 2010 17:05169570
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Ayn Rand was deeper than you think [134 words]Harry BinswangerMay 2, 2010 22:08169567
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to Debanjan [161 words]bostonianMar 3, 2010 13:27169562
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