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Dhimmitude and the future of the EU
Reader comment on item: [Nepal and France:] Two Opposite Responses to Terrorism

Submitted by J. Keen Holland (United States), Sep 15, 2004 at 00:10

This article dovetails nicely with a recent report in The Telegraph about the exhibition of an artistic rendering of the EU's future: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/14/weu14.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/09/14/ixworld.html

In an apparent effort to get a handle on what a former US president famously called "the vision thing," the exhibit projects that the EU will expand over the coming years to a membership of 50 states (most of the new members being Arab states) and becoming a new incarnation of the Roman Empire in its prime.

If the EU does in fact see its future as expanding south and southeast to include the Arab states of North Africa and SW Asia, they will have to confront seriously not only the issue of dhimmitude, but of the khilafa to which that service is due. The EU is rapidly evolving a unitary judicial structure, and has already elaborated a very large and activist permanent bureaucracy. As it progresses to a unified foreign policy and defense establishment it will require an executive with real power to give direction to this increasingly complex mechanism. In short, the EU will be the real government and the constituent states glorified provinces. This has profound implications for the incorporation of the Arab states.

One cannot assume that the Arabs will line up to join the EU as secular liberal political communities. It has been all the army could do since Attaturk's day to keep Turkey a secular, and usually parliamentary governed, state and not permit an excess of democracy recreating the old model of unified religious and political leadership. The Arabs have an even less encouraging history. If the EU expect 13 centuries of tradition to suddenly unravel and have the ummah demand secular liberal democracy, they are betting a lot on a very uncertain proposition.

But, if the European leadership (i.e., France and Germany) really see their future in a liberal democratic polis incorporating many of the Arab states, they should have a very different attitude toward the current efforts of the US and its coalition partners (including, for the present at least, such EU members as Britain, Italy and Poland) to build a secular liberal democracy in Iraq. The sort of Iraq that the coalition is trying to mold is the sort of state that might conceivably be an asset to the EU. The usual Arab models of governance are absolute monarchies and military dictatorships. The didtatorships have, from the EU leadership's perspective, the virtue of being more reliably socialist than the monarchies, but neither sort is going to fit in well with the other EU states. How can the EU take to its bosom a region whose dominant political yearning is to re-establish the caliphate uniting all Muslims under a single regime where there are no distinctions between the political and religious spheres?

What is left? A new model for the EU comprising two distinct judicial systems, one for the West and another in the East? Or do they simply agree that the whole Union will live under traditional Islamic law? If the only thing that matters is the projection of geopolitical influence and an economy large enough to support the world's leading military power, then perhaps giving up what little of genuine principle motivated the founding of the European project all those decades ago. But, if the EU enterprise was in any way intended to secure the blessings of liberty for inhabitants of Europe where that notion first blossomed, then the price to be paid for the vision of a New Rome is too great. The Middle East is a region known for its prophets, and as one of them said nearly 2,000 years ago, "What shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?"

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Dont Ever Write Nepalese Powerless [99 words]SinghaJul 29, 2008 23:53
Out of Chits [24 words]MarioSep 17, 2007 22:05
terrorism [31 words]dipendra karkiDec 25, 2005 05:04
Islamic Terror [136 words]SoundSep 26, 2006 10:33
French should follow their own advice to Israel [114 words]Ed MillerNov 10, 2005 12:50
Should Muslims attack innocent non-Muslims? [25 words]LuisNov 27, 2004 09:58
A dimmer view of dhimmitude
[w/response] [36 words]
Marvin RabinovitchOct 5, 2004 04:45
Thanx [30 words]Jacqueline BrombergerSep 29, 2004 15:16
Yes! [13 words]BoratSep 21, 2004 12:19
Messing with the Nepalese? What were they THINKING? [104 words]Kirk F.Sep 19, 2004 19:42
Should governments burn mosques? [97 words]David GuySep 18, 2004 13:38
Supineness or subtility? [138 words]NicoSep 18, 2004 06:02
Winning wars [71 words]SoundSep 26, 2006 10:53
Nepal and France [44 words]Mario IbanezSep 17, 2007 21:56
Individual and Community indicators [68 words]David W. LincolnSep 16, 2004 19:29
How much capital does a country like France has? [116 words]lubiczSep 16, 2004 15:26
Only a few understand militant Islam [39 words]Moses OwolabiSep 16, 2004 11:39
Western weakness... [121 words]MichaelNov 6, 2006 17:15
Did not quite agree with your article [315 words]Jaideep MukerjiSep 16, 2004 11:26
Reprisals [73 words]DannySep 15, 2004 22:01
The French [50 words]W.H. GutgesellSep 15, 2004 17:07
Is the Left more like France ? [35 words]Michael SandorffySep 15, 2004 13:55
could it be? [29 words]john mikeschJun 30, 2006 01:10
Reaction to hostage taking [80 words]Mitzi AlvinSep 15, 2004 11:40
Good job! [23 words]Victoria VernauSep 15, 2004 09:53
Right on! [256 words]Paul RhoadsSep 15, 2004 06:16
I don't see history as a guide [101 words]Marcus RometschSep 15, 2004 04:25
BIEN FAIT POUR LEUR GUEULE! [53 words]Adam GreavesSep 15, 2004 03:30
Equalizer to Islamism [66 words]prafulbidwaySep 15, 2004 01:46
⇒ Dhimmitude and the future of the EU [619 words]J. Keen HollandSep 15, 2004 00:10
Hit me and I will hit you back? [59 words]Vinod GulatiSep 14, 2004 23:42
Reactions to Islamic extremism [52 words]Elliott BlumbergSep 14, 2004 23:23
Not so sure [438 words]Garry PriorSep 14, 2004 23:07
The Nepalese Solution [133 words]Darwin BarrettSep 14, 2004 19:56
Nepal and France [188 words]Raf WugalterSep 14, 2004 19:41
France, Nepal and INDIA. [71 words]KURUKSHETRASep 14, 2004 19:21
Nepal and French responses [36 words]JeanSep 14, 2004 19:00
Nepal and France [49 words]bobSep 14, 2004 18:47
the Nepalese way [45 words]GERALD PRENICKSep 14, 2004 18:21
Overstated? [175 words]bucephalusSep 14, 2004 18:04
Violence will escalate. [88 words]AlwellSep 25, 2006 16:09
how it will be [72 words]michaelNov 6, 2006 17:31
French Appeasement [258 words]JohnSep 14, 2004 17:31
France is finished and probably has been for some time [42 words]John CraigSep 14, 2004 15:51
France Was Right [91 words]Mike StanleyApr 26, 2006 17:39
Whose example should Israel & US follow: Nepalese or French? [137 words]Eleonora ShifrinSep 14, 2004 13:59
What terrorists want [109 words]The Night OwlSep 14, 2004 12:12
Appeasement. [10 words]David HarrisSep 14, 2004 11:40
Equally self-destructive responses [235 words]JoshSep 14, 2004 11:08
A MATTER OF TIME [95 words]DON VANSep 14, 2004 10:05
Major difference [41 words]dave kessingerSep 14, 2004 10:04
It is pathetic [124 words]anguneSep 25, 2006 19:42

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