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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Sep 10, 2009 at 17:46
Without trying to interject what Dr. Pipes might think, or even if there was anything he may say that he has not already written/said regarding Islam, the question posed here by the previous writer, given a comparative review along with the pro-Muslim views of a number a of Islamic writers, to suppose that a more learned American Muslim perspective needs to be brought into the debate of whether Islam is good for America, or not, seems superfluous. The principle reason, that America is not the source of intelligence for Islam, and that in its inception, the primary 'target' audience for the initial spread of Islam were the local populations surrounding the Arabic peninsula, ranging from disenfranchised Arabs living in tribal conditions that were not conducive to outside relationships, to the disaffected Hebrews of the Diaspora, to the Christian population that had lost its original Biblical moorings and were proselytizing a different gospel than what Jesus Christ had required. From there, Islam spread.
Hundreds of years later, the basis for the spreading of Islam is the same, that the Jewish community is split on the verification of Jesus Christ as their (Deity)Messiah, that the Christian community is split on the identification of Jesus Christ as LORD and returning King of Israel, and no amount of education (study of the Hebrew Holy Bible ad infinitum), preaching of the True Gospel or any other communication of the need for a better Biblical understanding than that proclaimed by Jesus Christ Himself, is going to detract the adherent Muslim from communicating their version of life on this earth. It does not require a doctorate in Arabic studies with an emphasis on the Quran to know why. In reality, the answer to why is already contained in the Hebrew Holy Bible, and though study is a Biblical directive, a doctorate is not required there either, only abiding in Him and His WORD.
Just as America is now caught up in squandering its heritage for the sake of personal pursuits of freedoms because of their contemporary and generalized disrespect of the Holy Bible, so too would America be found lacking the determination to absorb and follow Quranic precepts. It is in that nature (of the beast-the natural man/woman) that we find a predisposition to self destruction if we do not seek out a supernatural source of power to keep ourselves true to Almighty God, and to follow His original WORD, the Holy Bible, handed down from the beginning.
As inferred, major efforts in the study of the religious philosophical have done nothing more than lend high-minded, empty-hearted sophistication to the historical debates of which religion is more to be honored than another. In general, as much time that is spent in Biblical studies to find reasons why Biblical based mores are considered by 'modernists' as archaic, a truer study is needed of how the Holy Bible actually portrays humanity as the same now as it ever was, a society of sinful being no more capable of self governing now as it ever has, needing the Savior more then ever. Missing that mark, history is littered with the catastrophic societal failures, Christian, Muslim, atheistic and paganist, all alike.
To say that there needs to be American converts to Islam that would seek to study and provide a better interpretation of Islam in America is to say that the American Constitution, Biblically based and providing the freest forum for expression of religious preferences, has failed. For many in the Islamic world outside of America, these are words of a victory song they would sing from the minarets. The only reason, which is Biblically based, for America to become more Muslim is that its Christian apostasy is completed and the world is primed for its final judgment. This too, is prognosticated by Muslim adherents, some for more deeply felt animosities towards America than others, but presented nonetheless in a sincere understanding of the Quran.
In the final analysis, Islam has managed to morph itself into the antagonistic counter to Christianity, moderate posturing notwithstanding. We read in the Biblical books (the apocalyptic sections of significant interest) of the conflict of an unbelieving world posturing to repel the return of Jesus Christ (even in spite of some Muslims saying their al-Madhi is the same as the messiah) and that in the end, Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ does indeed quell all human rebellion and enters Jerusalem as Israel's returning King. To understand this does not require more than a believer's search of the Biblical wisdom after a placement of trust in Jesus Christ as LORD, by the power of His WORD and love. This may not be fresh for some to absorb in this contemporary time of the current American Administration and the direction America is being taken, but it has always been true.
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| ↔ More on Islam with Mr. Tovey [692 words] | Debanjan Banerjee | Sep 16, 2009 14:20 |
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| ↔ My answer to Mr. Tovey [449 words] | Debanjan Banerjee | Sep 24, 2009 15:04 |
| ↔ The Christian Imperative Remains the Same [1146 words] | M. Tovey | Sep 25, 2009 13:32 |
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| how could we be so blind? [85 words] | Jules Posten | Sep 7, 2009 13:20 |
| Pandering - what Pandering!!! [89 words] | Jaladhi | Aug 28, 2009 15:54 |
| See no Truth, Speak No Truth!!! [104 words] | Jaladhi | Aug 28, 2009 15:42 |
| Islam's role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings? [44 words] | Mladen Andrijasevic | Aug 28, 2009 02:39 |
| islamic obama is not a huge shock. [105 words] | Phil Greend | Aug 26, 2009 18:25 |
| More on Obama's Speech [384 words] | Ynnatchkah | Aug 26, 2009 04:02 |
| pay attention to the detail [79 words] | yuval Brandstetter MD | Aug 25, 2009 00:46 |
| Fasting [44 words] | Mohamed Eljahmi | Aug 24, 2009 14:16 |
| ↔ Sometimes feasting is better than fasting.... [60 words] | Pava | Aug 26, 2009 13:26 |
| ↔ Is fasting beneficial? [203 words] | Mohamed Eljahmi | Aug 26, 2009 21:18 |
| ↔ Ebionites.... [25 words] | Pava | Aug 27, 2009 17:29 |
| ↔ Ebionites [19 words] | Mohamed Eljahmi | Aug 28, 2009 16:42 |
| ↔ Ramadan and early islam and the Ebionites [1048 words] | dhimmi no more | Aug 29, 2009 09:05 |
| ↔ At night I am Ebionite [16 words] | Pava | Aug 30, 2009 01:19 |
| ↔ Islam has solution to every thing [110 words] | Mansoor | Sep 9, 2009 00:52 |
| ↔ Ramadan in the arctic but again Allah knew about nothing beyond Arabia [524 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 10, 2009 07:24 |
| ↔ I think it rot [30 words] | Mansoor | Sep 10, 2009 23:42 |
| ↔ In memory of the victims of the 9/11 atrocity [58 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 11, 2009 07:26 |
| ↔ Allah cannot be the God of the arctic [76 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 13, 2009 06:47 |
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| Dr. Pipes writings are delights. [231 words] | Svet | Aug 23, 2009 20:43 |
| Obama's Anti-Israel Policy [41 words] | Linda | Jul 27, 2009 22:37 |
| ↔ Sorry to dissapoint you Linda [8 words] | Pava | Aug 24, 2009 00:06 |
| ↔ Linda is wrong [43 words] | Iris | Aug 28, 2009 09:17 |
| The Course of Obama's Anti-Israel Policy [791 words] | Bishop E W Jackson Sr | Jun 29, 2009 11:25 |
| ↔ Bishop Jackson- It's good to have someone like you in the trenches with us...G-d Bless You! [11 words] | Froike | Jul 1, 2009 19:18 |
| ↔ Response to comment on article [56 words] | Bishop E W Jackson Sr. | Jul 3, 2009 09:34 |
| ↔ Jew hatred [121 words] | Kinana | Jul 31, 2009 03:44 |
| ↔ How Could America Be So Stupid?! [171 words] | Alan | Aug 4, 2009 10:41 |
| ↔ Guilt By Association and Undocumented Allegtation and Surmises... [208 words] | Burton Goldstein | Aug 20, 2009 12:58 |
| ↔ Long Live Bishop Jackson- Man of Truth...Man of Vision! [36 words] | Froike | Aug 25, 2009 18:04 |
| Dhimmitude is cool! [45 words] | Vern | Jun 5, 2009 11:01 |
| Obama and Moubarak meet in Cairo: What's next?. [133 words] | Morris Abraham | Jun 1, 2009 19:40 |
| Demagogy is the domain of charlatans... [219 words] | Tziona | May 26, 2009 07:41 |
| Obama is... [30 words] | Taj | May 6, 2009 13:25 |
| Who Is A Muslim [69 words] | Renee Levine | May 4, 2009 06:48 |
| There may be more to Evangelical failure to identify Obama as a "Christian" [91 words] | Peter Herz | Apr 25, 2009 17:01 |
| ↔ prophet [46 words] | Tom | Apr 29, 2009 22:48 |
| Obama [61 words] | Muslim Lady | Apr 13, 2009 03:25 |
| ↔ Obama unpopular [20 words] | Think again | Sep 27, 2009 21:24 |
| ↔ Palestinians [185 words] | Don | Sep 28, 2009 07:37 |
| It is what one does with their religion that counts. [35 words] | Phil Greend | Apr 10, 2009 12:47 |
| Obama WAS and IS MUSLIM [124 words] | mariaha_14 | Apr 8, 2009 14:44 |
| ↔ Crazy comments [36 words] | thebassguy | Apr 21, 2009 19:03 |
| Yes, I do not believe Obama and is NOT b/c of his Islamic past experience (There are moderate muslijms) [362 words] | Ynnatchkah | Apr 4, 2009 11:32 |
| sounds just like my brother who is French has profferred [150 words] | Don Dee | Mar 24, 2009 21:26 |
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| ↔ Religious fools.. [69 words] | DONVAN | Feb 9, 2009 11:02 |
| ↔ Actually, Renee [72 words] | Straight_Talk_Luigi | Feb 9, 2009 11:49 |
| ↔ REPLY TO DONVAN'S REPLY TO RENEE BURGESS [392 words] | DANIEL REDMOND | Feb 11, 2009 20:11 |
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| ↔ REPLY TO "STRAIGHT TALK LUIGI" [179 words] | DANIEL REDMOND | Feb 18, 2009 21:51 |
| ↔ Daniel Redmon and why secular soceities die [578 words] | Straight_Talk_Luigi | Feb 19, 2009 20:02 |
| ↔ REPLY TO DONVAN'S LATEST LAMENT [266 words] | DANIEL REDMOND | Feb 19, 2009 20:59 |
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| ↔ really... [76 words] | DONVAN | Mar 1, 2009 21:02 |
| ↔ TIME TO DUST OFF ... [144 words] | DANIEL REDMOND | Mar 2, 2009 23:23 |
| ↔ Wrong again Daniel... [89 words] | donvan | Mar 4, 2009 10:10 |
| ↔ EXACTLY.. [23 words] | DONVAN | Mar 5, 2009 09:26 |
| ↔ WELL, NOT REALLY WRONG...... [106 words] | DANIEL REDMOND | Mar 5, 2009 19:49 |
| ↔ the best comment [8 words] | barry soetoro | Mar 20, 2009 18:19 |
| ↔ Donvan...Have you forgotten the roots of your "Christian Values"....Judaism? [18 words] | Froike | Jul 1, 2009 19:21 |
| ↔ of course... [56 words] | donvan | Jul 3, 2009 05:28 |
| The ongoing saga of our president Barack Obama [306 words] | vigilant | Feb 5, 2009 22:22 |
| Placate, appease, obfuscate, and lie... [106 words] | donvan | Feb 3, 2009 16:04 |
| ↔ CALLING OUT DONVAN ON HIS UNSUPPORTABLE ASSERTIONS [364 words] | DANIEL REDMOND | Feb 26, 2009 17:27 |
| ↔ calling out?? [260 words] | donvan | Mar 1, 2009 17:50 |
| ↔ WOW! DONVAN FOUND A DICTIONARY [808 words] | DANIEL REDMOND | Mar 2, 2009 22:46 |
| ↔ Really [205 words] | DONVAN | Mar 4, 2009 09:46 |
| ↔ WELL NOW WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE...... [805 words] | DANIEL REDMOND | Mar 5, 2009 21:19 |
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| ↔ OBAMA A MUSLIM? YES OR NO? [42 words] | DANIEL REDMOND | Feb 6, 2009 19:34 |
| ↔ OBAMA A MUSLIM? YES OR NO? [13 words] | DANIEL REDMOND | Feb 26, 2009 16:40 |
| obama Courts Iran, Syria. [31 words] | Jinn | Feb 2, 2009 22:40 |
| It is not like between catholics and protestants: islam a is totalitarian system [74 words] | frank spade | Feb 2, 2009 07:49 |
| leaving [12 words] | ex muslim | Feb 1, 2009 09:58 |
| The rules have changed... [52 words] | Kathy | Jan 28, 2009 19:47 |
| ↔ United States of Islam [72 words] | muhammad abdullah | Jan 31, 2009 18:23 |
| ↔ The rules have changed 2 [168 words] | sinbad1 | Feb 5, 2009 07:22 |
| ↔ Obama , a muslim? [153 words] | Mohammed | Aug 27, 2009 20:25 |
| Week 1: Summary [59 words] | JInn 'n' Tonic | Jan 27, 2009 11:13 |
| ↔ Week 1: Summary [UPDATED] [79 words] | Jinn 'n' Tonic | Jan 27, 2009 23:00 |
| ↔ Appointments. [66 words] | James | Feb 1, 2009 00:20 |
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| ↔ Wagner [182 words] | James | Jan 31, 2009 14:20 |
| The success of terror.. [238 words] | donvan | Jan 26, 2009 09:01 |
| Including unbelievers was good though. [167 words] | MelM | Jan 26, 2009 01:05 |
| a glimpse into the real Obama on that video [146 words] | jennifer solis | Jan 25, 2009 21:54 |
| ↔ Obama [9 words] | Alyn | Feb 1, 2009 23:19 |
| ecumenism and its beginnings [326 words] | rodney allsworth | Jan 25, 2009 19:16 |
| no longer Christian and middle names [202 words] | Rebecca Moulds | Jan 25, 2009 13:37 |
| ↔ On going and going on [176 words] | marie | Jan 28, 2009 23:03 |
| ↔ The quickly fading facade [102 words] | Rebecca Moulds | Jan 29, 2009 19:08 |
| ↔ What is the problem if Obama is Muslim [w/response] [112 words] | Debanjan Banerjee | Mar 24, 2009 05:43 |
| Obama- God Help AmericA [222 words] | Tess | Jan 25, 2009 07:51 |
| "Obama spy choice sees opportunity on Iran, Muslims" [49 words] | Jinn 'n' Tonic | Jan 22, 2009 20:24 |
| Whoops! Looks Like Jews Just Got Demoted. And Tricky Baricky Never Heard of Legal Jihad. [824 words] | Sofa Sogood | Jan 21, 2009 14:39 |
| ↔ Unguarded Moments [99 words] | Nosharia | Jan 21, 2009 20:24 |
| ↔ A curry on the cook!!! [126 words] | Mansoor | Jan 23, 2009 15:17 |
| ↔ the second oath [10 words] | barry soetoro | Jan 24, 2009 18:52 |
| ↔ People Like Me? No, it's People Like You!! Americans Aren't Stupid As It Would Please You To Believe. Answer to Monsoor, Part I [823 words] | Sofa Sogood | Jan 24, 2009 23:46 |
| ↔ Reversion to Worship of Malevolent and Hungry Media God Moloch With Child Sacrifice -- Answer to Monsoor, Part II [915 words] | Sofa Sogood | Jan 25, 2009 00:52 |
| ↔ No sympathy!! [273 words] | Mansoor | Jan 26, 2009 02:24 |
| ↔ I will rather invest in Israel [60 words] | Pradeep M | Mar 24, 2009 05:46 |
| ↔ about mansoor with no sympathy [31 words] | rac | Jun 23, 2009 02:54 |
| the dream has materialized [65 words] | Keith Williams | Jan 20, 2009 23:08 |
| ↔ KEITH-no dream [75 words] | btilly | Jan 28, 2009 01:21 |
| The Man Who Would Unify the World [211 words] | Nosharia | Jan 20, 2009 21:48 |
| ↔ Yes, Mr. Obama can help unify the world. [67 words] | Globe | May 20, 2009 12:59 |
| Drooling, slobbering leftist media [65 words] | jennifer solis | Jan 20, 2009 20:03 |
| ↔ Geert Wilders, proof again of Britains snowballing gutlessness. [250 words] | gordon weare | Feb 13, 2009 23:00 |
| Obama - a new Faustus. He gets his gal while the Devil gets his soul. [330 words] | Ianus | Jan 20, 2009 12:40 |
| ↔ Short Memory !!! [35 words] | Jaladhi | Jan 21, 2009 15:49 |
| Awad & Ellison: 8,000 jobs are available now in the Obama administration [160 words] | JInn 'n' Tonic | Jan 20, 2009 10:57 |
| A not so private nightmare [192 words] | Deianira | Jan 20, 2009 10:31 |
| ↔ Nah [319 words] | Sofa Sogood | Jan 21, 2009 15:32 |
| Fear Mongering Hysterics -- You Were Right !!! His Middle Name Is Hussein !!! And That's Muslim !!!! [32 words] | Sofa Sogood | Jan 20, 2009 07:27 |
| ↔ Obama's Conversion [13 words] | Nosharia | Jan 21, 2009 20:30 |
| ↔ Not quite 'Heaven's Gate' [152 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Jan 24, 2009 21:40 |
| ↔ Do You Remember When the Fad Was to Wear Mickey Mouse Shirts? It's the Same Mentality. Surprise! The Price For Taking Off These "Shirts" Is Death. [72 words] | Sofa Sogood | Jan 26, 2009 07:34 |
| If he was born Muslim, but is now Christian [6 words] | Lauren | Jan 20, 2009 00:47 |
| ↔ USA President [157 words] | gopelalwani | Jan 23, 2009 17:16 |
| ↔ Yes [7 words] | Imam Ahmed Muhammed | Feb 10, 2009 13:53 |
| ↔ No [30 words] | Tom | Apr 29, 2009 22:53 |
| ↔ Our dear Tom tells us that lots of Christians in the Middle East "Have the name Hussain" Really? [106 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 3, 2009 07:15 |
| ↔ Holla glad to be back!!! OBAMA!!!! [751 words] | ahmadzafire | Sep 4, 2009 20:10 |
| ↔ Everyone is born muslim?? Heh, nice try... [156 words] | Klew | Sep 5, 2009 18:59 |
| ↔ Klew [124 words] | ahmadzafire | Sep 6, 2009 20:42 |
| ↔ dhimmi no more [85 words] | ahmadzafire | Sep 6, 2009 20:55 |
| ↔ Christian Arabs do not call their boys Hussain [161 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 8, 2009 06:37 |
| ↔ The Correct Answer, SUBMISSION [32 words] | AnneM | Sep 9, 2009 12:33 |
| ↔ AnneM [88 words] | ahmadzafire | Sep 9, 2009 23:54 |
| ↔ dhimmi no more [297 words] | ahmadzafire | Sep 10, 2009 00:33 |
| ↔ More islamic delsuions [388 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 12, 2009 10:00 |
| ↔ Christian Arabs do not call their boys Hussain part deux [468 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 13, 2009 07:03 |
| ↔ dhimmi no more [1720 words] | ahmadzafire | Sep 13, 2009 09:59 |
| ↔ Christians with Muslim names [71 words] | Peter Herz | Sep 27, 2009 16:57 |
| ↔ Peter Herz [149 words] | ahamdzafire | Nov 11, 2009 15:17 |
| ↔ Another tablighee and the Arabic language [202 words] | dhimmi no more | Nov 12, 2009 16:09 |
| ↔ dhimmi no more [243 words] | ahmadzafire | Nov 13, 2009 18:26 |
| ↔ dhimmi no more [1123 words] | ahmadzafire | Nov 13, 2009 18:28 |
| ↔ Cherry picking time and the Qur'an really says that Jesus is God and I'm not the author of this poor theology [283 words] | dhimmi no more | Nov 13, 2009 21:04 |
| ↔ Cherry picking time and teaching tablighees al-lugha al-3arabiyya wa al-lugha al-suryaniyya [1193 words] | dhimmi no more | Nov 14, 2009 12:46 |
| ↔ Cherry picking time and teaching tablighees al-lugha al-3arabiyya wa al-lugha al-suryaniyya part deux [179 words] | dhimmi no more | Nov 14, 2009 16:54 |
| ↔ Cherry picking time and the islamic Binity [851 words] | dhimmi no more | Nov 15, 2009 16:50 |