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Allah and the Arabic language and the words rasul and nabi
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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 6, 2009 at 08:04

Our dear Junaid rabina yu3alimuhu al-lugha al-3arabiyya and your Allah claims that the Qur'an is a kitab mubeen maktub bi 3arabi fasseh is a false claim

>God, the best Knower of Arabic language and grammar gives the following proofs in the Quran

Really? OK then how about the most celebrated grammatical mistake in the Qur'an

ina hadhan (sic) la sahiran

What a fadiha (oh do not panic fadiha means a scandal!) that your Allah does not seem to know anything about the basic grammatical rule in Arabic and an elementary school child that studies Arabic should know and it is: ina wa akhawatiha tansub al-mubtada' wa tarfa3 al-khabar (oh I do not translate Arabic for wannabe Arabs like you) and now here is my correction of your Allah's poor grammar

ina HADHAYN la sahiran

What a scandal

Oh more mistakes?

1. In surat al-hajj 5 nukhrijukum tifla (sic) (vocalized as tiflan)

Really? poor Arabic again and let me fix your Allah's poor grammar the second word should be in jam3 or

nukhrijukum ATFALA (vocalized as atfalan)

Oh more examples? i'm glad you asked

surat al-shu3ara' 105

kadhdhabatu (sic) qawmu nuhi al-mursaleena

Now let me fix Allah's poor grammar

kadhdhaba qawmu nuhi al-mursaleena

What a fadiha as we need to get Allah to work on his genders in Arabic

Oh more mistakes?

In surat al-nahl 66

wa inna lakum fi al-an3ami la3ibratun nusqikum mema fi butunih (sic)

Now let me fix your Allah's poor Arabic the last word should be

blah....blah...blah... fi butuniha

And here is your bonus for today: the ulama edited (yes edited) your Allah's mistake by adding an alif below the final latter heh! so much for the unedited Qur'an

Even 3A'isha realized that there are grammatical mistakes in the Qur'an and we have her very celebrated dictum (see Suyuti) :

hadha 3amal al-kuttab 'akhta'oo fi al-kitab

Or: this is the work of the scribes who erred in writing the book (read this as the Qur'an) et voila it is all in black and white

Oh more? even 3Uthman realized that there are mistakes in the Qur'an and we have his very celebrated dictum (see Suyuti) :

la tughayiruha fa inna al-3arab satughayiruha

Oh there is more. Now the real question is how come you did not know that? could it because you do not know any Arabic? or could it be that you hoped that we infidles do not know any arabic but in this case it would be lying to us? or could it be that you are really ignorant and that you need to stick to Urdu? so which one is it?

Now are you willing to change your mind our dear Junaid al-tablighee?

Now I proved to you that you do not know any Arabic because you would have been aware of such mistakes then why should we believe you about your little what is a rasul and what is a nabi and oh by the way the word nabi is a loan word from Hebrew and it is not even an Arabic word

And here is your home work just translate the following to English

al-rasul al-nabi al-ummi

For the readers: there is no (in the words of Wansbrough) "rigorous and consistent distinction between the designation nabi and rasul is not justified by Quranic usage."

Which means that any distinction between the two words nabi and rasul is no more than guessing

So much for the claim that the Quran is a kitab mubeen or clear book

So how do we deal with this issue? we are only left with two options

1. qamoos Lisan al-3arab by Ibn Manzur

2. Or we can follow the old and very celebrated saying: al-tafseer lel sahab wa al-ta'weel lel fuqaha/3ulma/jamee3. And in this case we will be only be guessing

I will be waiting for your answer with great anticipation


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Many Muslims are intolerant [120 words]A muslim womanSep 10, 2009 01:32
Not Nabi,But Messenger [21 words]Ashraf AliSep 1, 2009 09:17
Our dear Ashraf needs to stick to urdu [158 words]dhimmi no moreSep 1, 2009 19:47
MESSENGER but not PROPHET! RASOUL not NABI! [61 words]MahaSep 14, 2009 22:55
AL FUQRA [506 words]AJ WebermanJul 1, 2009 06:46
what ever happened to that [28 words]joeyJul 6, 2009 16:43
No..... [172 words]donvanJun 17, 2009 07:08
Rashad Khalifa as messenger, not prophet [107 words]Junaid DurraniJun 6, 2009 23:32
semantics [73 words]TajJun 17, 2009 16:15
Response to comments by Taj [957 words]Junaid DurraniJun 20, 2009 02:48
⇒ Allah and the Arabic language and the words rasul and nabi [644 words]dhimmi no moreSep 6, 2009 08:04
incorrect information [12 words]FMMay 31, 2009 00:38
Hmmmph. [34 words]Peter HerzJun 2, 2009 15:11

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