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Reader comment on item: U.S. to Israel: You Decide Nukes in Iran, We Decide Bedrooms in Jerusalem
in response to reader comment: Ms Voshell is right, but the question is consistent with what ?

Submitted by Fay Voshell (United States), Jul 17, 2009 at 09:47

Thank you for your thoughtful response.

I agree it does seem increasingly clear the Obama administration would prefer the wrath of the Arab world to be focused on Israel, if/when she attacks Iranian nuclear facilities.

However, I don't think regime change in Iran would involve an alliance with Israel or India. That is because of the intertwining of theology and politics in the Middle East. No matter what the new regime in Iran involves, it will certainly be comprised of Muslims most of whom, to put the matter mildly, see Israel as THE Jewish enemy (Jewish in the entirely perjorative sense).

As for India, something similar is the case in that Hindu and Muslim populations live together very uneasily and outbursts of religious violence still haunt the nation despite campaigns for tolerance. The carnage of 1945 is an example of still remembered violence; and the tense relationship between Pakistan and India continues. So I don't think an Iranian/Indian alliance is likely, though it is certainly an intriguing idea. In sum, think first of theology/religion as a basis for Middle East politics; secular politics second.

But I certainly do agree the current US administration is perfectly willing to make Israel the villain and thus the target of yet more Arab rage. Once Israel strikes, and the wrath of the Arab world falls on Israel once again, Obama will look at the situation empathetically tut-tutting over "loss of life, regrettable and avoidable violence, surprising Israeli aggression, lamentable collateral damage" and so forth (I think I could write the speech)--all the while manuvering behind the scenes to capitalize on Israeli actions without having to pay the price of actual front line involvement.

The price the US has to pay? Very little in the eyes of the Obama administration, which prides itself on "pragmatic" international policy.

But in actuality, the stance of Obama toward Israel is cynicism bordering on treachery toward the only reliable ally the US has had in the Middle East. And from what I understand about the Koran, treachery toward friends comes very close to being an unforgiveable sin in the eyes of Allah. So Obama may "win" pragmatically speaking, but he risks garnering the contempt of Middle East countries.


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Hussein Obama struggles not to deal with Iran untill his mandate is over- so the culpabitility will fall upon others. [78 words]YnnatchkahJul 27, 2009 15:00
The New Nuclear Cold War [170 words]Stepehn HughesJul 23, 2009 00:36
Israel , and Israel alone should decide how she will survive ! [84 words]Phil GreendJul 19, 2009 03:13
Best interest of whom? [18 words]JohnJul 16, 2009 19:24
I believe that in the interest of consistency we should order Israel to surrender it's nuclear arsenal.
[w/response] [27 words]
GreywulfJul 16, 2009 09:43
Weakening Israel [342 words]Fay VoshellJul 14, 2009 11:07
Whiny Petulance [108 words]danJul 14, 2009 05:18
No difference at all [119 words]Lars NielsenJul 13, 2009 17:22
US policy toward Israel is perfectly consistent [332 words]Fay VoshellJul 12, 2009 12:50
Ms Voshell is right, but the question is consistent with what ? [245 words]JonJul 15, 2009 06:47
⇒ Theolgical/political logistics [369 words]Fay VoshellJul 17, 2009 09:47
Politics and theology in Iran [313 words]JonJul 21, 2009 17:14
Wny an Iranian/Israeli alliance won't happen [394 words]Fay VoshellJul 28, 2009 11:46
Fayad, Palestine and the jews. [26 words]stevenLJul 9, 2009 22:27
inconsistency [70 words]miriamJul 9, 2009 19:16
Mixed messages from Obama adm. officials causing a lot of hot-air. [16 words]M.D.Jul 9, 2009 17:47
Foolish preference [79 words]R.S. DavisJul 9, 2009 10:30
Green Light means go [120 words]AntiochosJul 9, 2009 09:55
no inconsistency [150 words]Pete murrayJul 9, 2009 06:34
Yea old double standard ! [123 words]Lou from Queens, NYC, USAJul 9, 2009 00:21
Sovereign or Not [128 words]Gilles and Elinore MailhiotJul 8, 2009 19:42
US To Israel: You decide Nukes in Iran. We decide bedrooms in Jerusalem. [127 words]DebbieJul 8, 2009 18:20
Israel as a vassal state of the US [114 words]Regina DalyJul 8, 2009 15:16
Agreed [66 words]Abu NudnikJul 8, 2009 13:21
So Israel is being asked/tasked to do the US's dirty work in Iran [664 words]JonJul 8, 2009 12:43
Israel's independence [73 words]J. SheffJul 8, 2009 12:37
Further elaboration, please
[w/response] [86 words]
Sheryl RosenbergJul 8, 2009 11:28
Iran and her nukes program and no new Israeli settlements [163 words]IsaacJul 8, 2009 11:27
Obama's Hectoring & What It Portends For Israel [202 words]Adina KutnickiJul 8, 2009 09:46
What's good for the goose, etc. [141 words]Rebecca MouldsJul 8, 2009 09:32
Bingo [93 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDJul 8, 2009 01:36
Mr. Obama's attitude along with Hillary's one. [140 words]SvetlanaJul 7, 2009 23:14

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