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So, America has produced another Viet Nam. The American no longer has the stomach to fight the battles before they appear on their own streets.

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Submitted by kman (United States), Jul 9, 2009 at 23:15

Well and good. Nobody answers to the reality of letting the Vietnamese "have what they wanted". Nobody makes any effort to see the desecration the communists have visited upon a country that now abases itself in order to get American aid. Aw, yes, the successes of communism. They really made a big difference didn't they? I mean besides the "PR" photos that microscopically tell an alternate truth - a lie.

I have to disagree with the PIpes idea of having deposed Saddam, quickly establishing a government, and then hightailing it. There was easily enough of the old guard military and politicians waiting around for just that. Anything we set up would have been replaced by an identical Saddam government.

How do you leave a powder keg with a sizzling fuse within a Middle East that delivers the vast quantity of oil that fuels the world's commerce? A powder keg is what Saddam was and is what would have replaced him. It still may. At the least, we have left an outpost for militant Islam.

All wars produce a multitude of mistakes by both sides. There is always that delusional alternate of compromise that hangs the compromiser in the end. Because Bush presented one reason for going into Iraq, does that mean there wasn't any good reason? The same applied to Viet Nam. You can leave a cancer alone if you wish, but any idiot can tell you the ultimate result. You can cut rot out of an apple, wrap it in something, and preserve the apple. Leave the rot and it will spread to the whole barrel. ... and eventually all barrels.

There was a large segment of the Iraqi population that saw the great value the American troops delivered outside the military realm. We re-built schools, hospitals, electrical systems, sewer systems, and fought to make their streets safe. The Islamic radicals chose to make Iraq their battleground. We weren't just fighting "bad guy Iraqis".

Of course what can one expect from the Liberal press that now has a stranglehold on the "news" in the world? Perhaps these pictures were a Hollywood set-up? I exagerrate to make a point. How far do you really trust these photo-op shots of "Iraqis dancing in the streets"? I heard the alternate stories (the truth) in Iran long before the press showed the real sentiments there. If you want truthful news you have to find a truthful source.

We have advanced the cause of radical and militant Islam by our cowardly withdrawal. It was a foregone conclusion, anyway. We also, produced Viet Nam and now we have a much stronger communist presence in the world that dares to challenge the tin pot government and peoples of the United States. The Muslim militants saw the same thing. The whole world is now convinced that the American public no longer has the stomach to fight for anything besides corrupt and greedy politicians, industrialists, and the bloated American way of life.

China, Russia, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran are all watching and having themselves a party and big laugh over the "Paper Tiger's" demise.

Let the world domination by despots commence. It isn't worth saving anymore. God Almighty will bring about his eventual purpose, but man has lost it


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Iraq [93 words]williamAug 7, 2009 07:38159783
The Message is Clear Indeed-Why Iraq Cannot Function Under an American Style Democracy [331 words]M. ToveyJul 20, 2009 15:30159073
One disillusioned American [136 words]KathyJul 17, 2009 13:38158958
To Kathy, from one tired American [383 words]JeffAug 7, 2009 08:47158958
If you're damned either way, do nothing [115 words]Charles MartelJul 17, 2009 11:29158953
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revert to type... [77 words]donvanJul 15, 2009 19:19158894
DOES HOLBROOK KNOW WHAT HE HAS DONE [75 words]BIGEJul 15, 2009 18:32158893
The Eastern front is Back [118 words]yuval Brandstetter MDJul 15, 2009 15:50158881
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OT, but., what do you think of Xinjiang? [84 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Peter HerzJul 14, 2009 16:55158846
The message is clear!! [165 words]MansoorJul 14, 2009 08:09158830
Hey Mansoor, you are finally back!!! ASK YOUR PRESIDENT & PM WHEN IS US LEAVING PAKISTAN?? [182 words]Proud IndianJul 19, 2009 06:53158830
Iraqi Ship of Fools [572 words]Lou from Queens,NYC,USAJul 21, 2009 11:44158830
Should never have invaded in the first place [58 words]John SmithJul 13, 2009 13:22158803
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more than oil [17 words]Peter, ScotlandJul 10, 2009 20:38158734
Liberation (finally!) [56 words]Francis BrookeJul 10, 2009 17:46158728
Saddam's Babylon [157 words]UgriJul 10, 2009 01:40158711
So, America has produced another Viet Nam. The American no longer has the stomach to fight the battles before they appear on their own streets. [543 words]kmanJul 9, 2009 23:15158707
Ungrateful Iraqis - Let them sort their own problems. [101 words]M.D.Jul 9, 2009 18:04158695
I Would Extend Dr. Pipes' Argument Further [81 words]AlexJul 9, 2009 17:19158687
Sad situation in Iraq [157 words]Rebecca MouldsJul 9, 2009 14:48158671
Many reasons why ? [206 words]John BJul 9, 2009 13:59158670
Who will they blame???? [75 words]FroikeJul 9, 2009 13:07158668
Glad We Are Leaving [314 words]ShaynaJul 9, 2009 11:47158667
Lessons not learned [178 words]Barry GoldbergJul 9, 2009 11:14158666
re US withdrawal from Iraq [17 words]edith cordJul 9, 2009 11:06158664
limping away from Iraq [148 words]IsaacJul 9, 2009 09:48158659
Limping Away [225 words]Arif Jayish al AmrikiJul 9, 2009 09:23158656
Well then, Mr. Pipes. [79 words]LynnJul 9, 2009 09:00158655
I advised: "Turn power over to the Iraqis. !!!! [101 words]Nicola Russo - Roma - ItalyJul 9, 2009 08:56158654
Iraq [174 words]Hans NeumannJul 9, 2009 05:34158651
Handing Iran a victory at the cost of thousands of American lives [41 words]bernie naglerJul 9, 2009 01:20158644
Almost but not quite [112 words]Wallace Edward BrandJul 8, 2009 21:43158640
Limping away from a Shattered Iraq [3 words]jebJul 8, 2009 21:17158639
D***ed If We Didn't, And D***ed That We Did [359 words]orange yonasonJul 8, 2009 21:13158638
Iraqis celebrated the withdrawal of U.S. soldiers from Iraqi cities on July 1. [259 words]YnnatchkahJul 8, 2009 20:03158635
And what of Iran? [73 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
JamesJul 8, 2009 19:06158632
who will control US involvement [118 words]rodney allsworthJul 8, 2009 19:05158631
Limpin away froma shatterred Iraq - or going back to sleep? [369 words]DavidJul 8, 2009 18:59158630
Can't blame it on the settlements. [251 words]batya daganJul 8, 2009 18:56158629
Iraqi Future [319 words]Jim LopeyJul 8, 2009 18:22158626

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