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Karami: Islam was born in blood and it continues to live in it.

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Submitted by Plato (India), Apr 12, 2009 at 10:48

Karam, you wrote:

>>You and people such as you would lead to the last wars that the Universe would witness within short!<<

Since Islam was born in blood and war Muslims always think in violent terms. We are only having a debate and because you do not like the way it is going you want the whole universe submerged in war. Karam your prophet set this example of shedding blood when he did not like what his opponents said. He had a mother of six, Asma Bint Marwn murdered in cold blood because she dared criticize him. He had Kaf bin Ashraf similarly killed. Many other Jews and Arabs died under the knife of Muhammad's assassins for being critical of him. Read Ibn Ishaq or Tabari or Bukhari in the original Arabic to get more details on these murders.

>>You are full of hatred, enemity and agression against Mujslims and Islam!<<

You accuse kaffirs like me of exactly what the Koran does to kaffirs i.e. hate them, call them enemies of Muslims and Islam and of being aggressors.

Here is Koranic hatred of unbelievers:

008.022 YUSUFALI: For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are the deaf and the dumb,- those who understand not.

008.055 YUSUFALI: For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe.

098.006 YUSUFALI: Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.

The Koran calls for enmity against unbelievers:

004.144 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?

003.118 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom.

5:51 O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

004.101 YUSUFALI: When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.

Here is the Koran calling for aggression against unbelievers:

009.111 YUSUFALI: Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

009.039 YUSUFALI: Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things.

>>Though are are many people like you, but I still see that there are also many people leave their real religion and embrace Islam!<<

There are many people who leave Islam. But unlike people who enter Islam those who abandon Islam are likely to be ostracized or killed by Muslims. Muslims celebrate the conversion of an unbeliever. Conversion out of Islam is not celebrated out of fear for the life of the convert. Just visit sites under 'apostates Islam' to see what I mean.

>>Islam is a great religion, not you or any one like you can change the ideas of more than one billion muslims living on this unverse and still hundreds every month embrace this great religion with unlimited satisfaction!<<

No doubt it is a great religion; after all more than a billion believe in it. But the vast majority of them have no clue to what Islam is really saying as either they do not understand Arabic or they are illiterate or do not bother to study it. A great religion also does not mean it is a true religion or a good religion.

>> You know what, I suggest that you go and paint the ocean! This is a great job for you.<<

That is a job for Allah. I never claimed to be an Allah.

Regards

Plato

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