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Submitted by BART WILLRUTH (United States), Apr 30, 2004 at 11:39

As a formally trained (ex) theologian, a student of history and philosopy, and a careful observer of current philosophical winds, I submit that the concept "moderate Muslim" is a concept with no referent in reality.

With Islam, as with all other religious systems, it serves no purpose to study and interpret the intent of the founder's notions, nor those of the surviving holy documents, vis a vis the state of the contemporary form of the religion. That which defines contemporary Islam is the belief and sense of "reality" that is followed by its clergy and followers. The current doctrinal state of Islam may or may not correspond closely with the intent of the prophet. That is a question for theologians and historians, but it is not a determination of what it means to be Muslim today. The beliefs of current Islam as they relate to the outside world are as follows:

1. Submission to Allah as communicated by the prophet and interpreted by the
clerics is the dividing line between all people. The current beliefs of the clerics
is thus ultimately the ground of contemporary Islam.
2. Believers are those who are in submission. Those who do not submit are
infidels and enemies of Allah. This clear either-or distinction sets up the
jihad attitude which negates the possibility of moderation.
3. Islam must conquer the world. Just as communism was a threat to the
world in its quest to become universal, so too Islam is seen by its adherants
as being destined for universality. Since Allah uses his followers to carry out
his will, and his will is for all to submit, it is the responsibility of Muslims to
destroy all institutions opposed to that mission. The ultimate mission calls
for the entire world to eventually be Islamic. Infidels will someday no longer
exist.
4. Force is an acceptable method for accomplishing the mission. Even those
who would personally shrink from using force are expected to condone or
support it; that is the spirit of Jihad.

The Arab/Muslim street today is vibrant with the jihadic spirit. The average Muslim feels oppressed by the satanic forces of the infidels. He is encouraged by his religious leaders to strike back, with attitude if not in act.

The "moderate Muslim" constructed by outsiders is a fantasy. He is either a secularized and non-practising former believer except in name, or he is a wish. In order to exist in reality, this voice of moderation would need to still be a believing, practising insider who stands in opposition to all around him. It should come as no surprise that there are no such leaders coming forward to denounce the spirit of Jihad.

Why do we look for and search for such moderates? It can only be to serve political purposes and to refrain from openly naming the true enemy of our culture and our civilization. So long as Western political and thought leaders equivocate on the nature and name of the threat, the response to the threat will remain tepid. We hear continuously that the enemy is radical or militant Islam. But when it is nigh impossible to find an example of a "moderate" much less a moderate movement, is it not foolish and counterproductive to continue to search for one. Is it not even more foolish to claim in the absence of evidence that the vast majority of contemporary Muslims are moderate and that we must only contend with a small radical fringe?


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moderate muslim? [51 words]vogelgesangOct 26, 2009 14:31
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser .... thank you. [127 words]Rochelle MichaelsDec 19, 2007 12:58
There are very few moderates [16 words]MuslimApr 22, 2007 02:36
Why So Long? [55 words]DaveAug 24, 2006 00:43
Positive Rally/Security in U.S. [461 words]Ms.GotchetApr 18, 2005 11:58
But... [173 words]alvin_dayOct 23, 2004 23:33
Dealing With Realities [776 words]Carolyn S. GoldsteinMay 15, 2004 19:59
New effort by CAIR to distance itself from Terrorism [457 words]Chris ChrismanMay 14, 2004 12:12
It is Islam, not Islamists [336 words]MarkMay 13, 2004 11:23
Moderate Muslims, where are you hiding? [109 words]Joe MittelmanMay 8, 2004 19:56
Not surprising [64 words]BrendaMay 3, 2004 13:22
Where do you guys get this stuff? [555 words]KawtharMay 11, 2009 04:46
who are these idiots anyway.... [387 words]warren baconMay 3, 2004 10:49
The elephant in the room? [261 words]Ewin BarnettMay 3, 2004 10:36
Islamists don't wear badges [126 words]Howard GravesMay 3, 2004 05:17
Give it a little time [55 words]Ali HomsiMay 2, 2004 10:33
Moderate Muslim Gatherings [26 words]TanruMay 1, 2004 20:11
moderate muslim: a misnomer [149 words]k. abrahamMay 1, 2004 16:30
Moderate Muslims March in Phoenix [128 words]Chris ChrismanMay 1, 2004 12:29
HAIL TO A WELCOME PROPHET IN ISLAM [238 words]GRAHAM RAELBROOKMay 1, 2004 02:57
We are bound to loose the war on terrorism [186 words]C FreedMay 1, 2004 01:49
Spelling increases credulity [81 words]AS LeavyOct 10, 2006 19:06
You've got to start small. [129 words]Peter J. HerzMay 1, 2004 01:26
Zuhdi Jasser is fighting a losing cause [89 words]Richard A. WingApr 30, 2004 22:34
Bravo! [84 words]Regan HuffmanApr 30, 2004 21:27
American Muslims Silenced [110 words]Nelson HortonApr 30, 2004 21:01
Dr. Zuhdi [130 words]h yazdiApr 30, 2004 20:11
Patience [193 words]Darwin BarrettApr 30, 2004 18:14
Wishful Thinking [23 words]Thomas FrancisApr 30, 2004 16:38
Low turnout at the Muslim anti-terror demonstration [41 words]Jonathan Weinberg, M.D.Apr 30, 2004 16:25
Salute to Dr. Jasser and his supporters [73 words]Ron KilmartinApr 30, 2004 15:15
Thanks [17 words]Jim DunlopApr 30, 2004 13:25
Moderate Muslims.... [20 words]Herb StoneApr 30, 2004 13:15
⇒ moderate muslims [576 words]BART WILLRUTHApr 30, 2004 11:39
Do Muslims really condemn terrorism? [218 words]Dave RosenbergApr 30, 2004 11:03
Moderate Muslims must be heard and seen! [207 words]Rose WittemenApr 30, 2004 10:59
Moderate Muslims [69 words]Jonathan UsherApr 30, 2004 10:55
Zuhdi Jasser's noble effort [39 words]Bill JohnsonApr 30, 2004 10:39
Is it Radical Islam, or just Islam? [79 words]Mark TylerApr 30, 2004 10:11
Not nearly enough [110 words]EthylredApr 30, 2004 09:48
Response to your latest email, dated April 30, 2004 [55 words]Frieda KeoughApr 30, 2004 09:37

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