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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Jan 22, 2009 at 18:48

Azkad writes:

GI wrote initially:

"You left out jihad, taqiyya, djinns, shaitan, hajj, a so-called 'prophet' with many wives , one of which was a nine year old married at 53, muezzins, facing mecca 5 times a day and assorted other superstitions which we are happy to let you maintain - but which will not be tolerated being imposed on other people."

"..........Then, could you justify non-Muslim deeds – killing 1300 civilians and badly wounding 5000 civilians in Palestine many of whom are children and women, "getting married to a dog or a cat, supporting the move of gay couples and prostitutes, showing nude people on TV spoiling the growing generation, a great number of girls being pregnant and resigning themselves to abortion which is the greatest sin – can this be tolerated being imposed on others????? "

If you look again - what I wrote about was the superstitions of the Muslim religion. I mentioned nothing about crimes of Muslims or non-Muslims or the results of personal and political freedoms in western society resulting in people occasionally doing bizarre things. Yes, although I've never heard of it - getting married to a cat is a truly bizarre thing - in the same category as suggesting people drink camel's urine.


GI wrote:

"And what would that be then - blowing up Shia's in market places - or Israelis and Westerners and Indians in Indian hotels, or running a terrorist organisation hell bent (literally) on wiping out Israel? Or something a little more scientific such as this new development?"

".......You should have read my first comment carefully to grasp the idea. Those who are blowing themselves committing suicide and those who are killing the innocent can HARDLY be taken as Muslims. This is NOT the religion of ISLAM that they are voicing largely, this is NOT the order of the Prophet (PBUH), and this is NOT what you are thinking about."

and you should look a little deeper in to what has been said. The fact that Muslims other than yourself can argue black and blue with you about how these crimes can be justified shows just how open to interpretation Islam is. It's a case of - you decide what this passage means, believe it, find some people who agree with you - and say everyone else with another interpretation is deluded by 'Shaitan'. What a system!

There are imams living in the West and other places who say 'on no account must innocent life be taken'. Sounds fair enough doesn't it? But when cajoled into answering what 'innocent life' is - the response is 'Muslim life'. Almost by definition - 'infidels' are not innocent. YOu don't find this absurd???

".......The truth lies far behind that. Unless you have the TRUTH about this RELIGION, you go on with preaching your distorted ideas."

I'm sure you mean well and everything but it's such a same your religion is so easily misunderstood by so many of its adherents. Other religions do not have this problem. Islam should sort itself out first before even bothering to try to ingratiate itself into other societies.

Submitting....

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