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Submitted by joe (United States) , Jan 13, 2009 at 15:03
How does Slater's vision differ from what existed in Europe prior to the advent of the modern nation state? Political Europe once consisted largely of small kingdoms and principalities. Ironically, I would argue that the Ottoman threat catalyized the development of modern political Europe, especially in the century before Lepanto in 1571.
I don't believe that contemporary Europeans, aged and content as they are, have the stomach for a genocidal fight against a youthful Islamic population. The Muslim city-state model allows Europe to avoid such an outcome, while insuring the continued existance of a modern, secular, politically-liberal post-Christian Europe (at least for awhile). Secular Muslims (or ex-Muslims if you will) might very well choose to live outside the city-state boundaries.
We have seen already seen the development of these separate Muslim enclaves not only in Europe, but increasingly in the US and Australia as well.
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Democratic peaceful counter-attack [530 words]DEMSCI Feb 15, 2009 03:14 Micro-states for democracy [206 words]DEMSCI Feb 14, 2009 09:21 But where will they get jobs? [123 words]Farid H. Jan 30, 2009 20:36 Several Pakistans in Making [266 words]B N Gururaj Jan 27, 2009 05:01 Poll: Should Muslims living in a non-Muslim country integrate into host society? [13 words]Muslims Against Sharia Jan 25, 2009 23:42 Please see this video that was on channel 4 in uk [80 words]Val Jan 23, 2009 17:28 If it worked for the Huguenots it must be a good idea [17 words]Randy McDonald Jan 22, 2009 14:40 Muslim microstates [18 words]Richard Jan 22, 2009 10:32 A Humanist World Free From Religion [185 words]Robinoz Jan 22, 2009 05:57 ↔ What hubris! [255 words] Fay Voshell Jan 25, 2009 10:58 ↔ You're Upset Understood [190 words] Robin Jan 26, 2009 18:19 ↔ Hitler and Christianity [201 words] Fay Voshell Jan 28, 2009 12:14 ↔ Religion Manmade [376 words] Robin Jan 28, 2009 19:00 Muslim's perseverence & European Innovations [62 words]Ahmed Jan 22, 2009 04:06 Do you know? [129 words]adil Jan 21, 2009 09:38 Europe may hold their own in the future! [218 words]Ms. Anne Jan 20, 2009 07:24 possible outcomes [271 words]logical thinker Jan 19, 2009 19:00 bottom line for the U.S.A. [133 words]joel carson Jan 19, 2009 16:08 Difficulty of expulsion of Islamic microstates [470 words]Archimedes2 Jan 18, 2009 18:29 Muslim Conversion? [w/response] [231 words]Gilbert Mane Jan 18, 2009 01:47 ↔ Interesting observation, Gilbert [222 words] Archimedes2 Jan 19, 2009 18:08 ↔ Converts to Islam Also [144 words] Robinoz Jan 27, 2009 18:07 ↔ moslem conversion [186 words] rw Feb 9, 2009 01:03 mass madness [39 words]Val Jan 17, 2009 14:51 Chris Slater's option, a stepping stone [86 words]Lynne Schultz Jan 15, 2009 22:29 A culture like Europe's is at risk any way you look at it. [144 words]GWK Jan 15, 2009 12:21 Muslim microstates = Additional Muslim votes at the UN. [71 words]M.D'Souza Jan 15, 2009 10:51 "Expulsion of Muslims"? We can't even expel the terrorist, Mahmoud Mohammad Issa Mohammad [49 words]Krista Jan 15, 2009 09:33 Possible but not likely [90 words]Robert Friedmann Jan 15, 2009 05:58 ↔ Islamist "intentions" have never been under any doubt.. [9 words] kman Jan 18, 2009 18:50 The more likely unmentioned alternative [82 words]David Jan 15, 2009 03:17 RE=MUSLIM EURO-STATES SOONER THAN YOU THINK [95 words]Terry Jan 15, 2009 02:23 Will the West surrender? [257 words]Susan Jan 14, 2009 23:59 Muslim Autonomous Zones in Europe. [233 words]Prakash Jan 14, 2009 23:00 The nose [12 words]Steve Merkel Jan 14, 2009 22:36 'Autonomous Muslim? [226 words]Ulysses Black Jan 14, 2009 19:08 Slater, Autonomous Zones, and Israel [588 words]Lowell Blackman Jan 14, 2009 17:12 Chris Slater's comments [104 words]Ron Irvine Jan 14, 2009 15:30 The never-ending Muslim Empire ?? [51 words]Rich from Tampa Jan 14, 2009 14:33 Shariat in Action! (Warning! Not for the weakhearted.) [40 words]Turk Jan 14, 2009 14:10 ↔ Turk's not for the faint hearted [263 words] w. June Pedigo Jan 15, 2009 12:35 One more possibility [110 words]Hans Gesund Jan 14, 2009 14:00 slater is making a good point [292 words]Betsy Ross Jan 14, 2009 13:21 Harmonious [64 words]Phillip Jan 14, 2009 11:42 autonomous zones, as in the W.Bank or Gaza? [107 words]wynne Jan 14, 2009 11:38 A fifth outcome scenario [144 words]huck Jan 14, 2009 08:45 There is a Precedent for the Islamic CityStates [334 words]Nehama Jan 14, 2009 08:44 Excellent idea! [107 words]PDM Jan 14, 2009 05:27 Partially agreeing with Chris Slatter and totally with Dr. Pipes: Muslim autonomous zones as a mid step towards expulsion of Muslims or a Muslim takeover. [143 words]Ynnatchkah Jan 14, 2009 02:45 ⇒ Response to Slater [145 words]joe Jan 13, 2009 15:03 Autonomous zones - Gaza is one [169 words]Skeptic Jan 13, 2009 08:53 ↔ Palestinian Christians [26 words] Joseph Adams Jan 14, 2009 18:11 ↔ Resulting primarily from the inhumane acts of Hamas - Lebanon is another "autonomous zone"... [478 words] Skeptic Jan 16, 2009 13:00 Entirely bad idea [195 words]suitepotato Jan 12, 2009 14:03 ↔ Entirely possible [196 words] sam Jan 13, 2009 14:42 ↔ It's not that it must be the law of the land in absolute [327 words] suitepotato Jan 13, 2009 22:44 A ghetto by any other name... [191 words]Fay Voshell Jan 12, 2009 12:26 ↔ Very interesting perspective, Fay Voshell [170 words] jennifer solis Jan 15, 2009 16:16 ↔ Re-thinking secularism [459 words] Fay Voshell Jan 16, 2009 09:56 ↔ Monolith against monolith [467 words] Fay Voshell Jan 16, 2009 14:58 Makes no sense [82 words]Sean Silver Jan 12, 2009 11:51 ↔ kick them out [10 words] tania Jan 16, 2009 04:25 ↔ Australia Needs to Kick Them Out [171 words] Robinoz Jan 22, 2009 06:13
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