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Could Mr Pipes or anyone help me understand why

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Submitted by Marcella, US (Canada), Jan 7, 2009 at 15:38

I'm growing weary of watching scenes of carnage in Gaza day after day on TV. Mostly images of children, of course. Whatever the government gets out of this incursion into Gaza will be dwarfed by the gigantic PR value that Hamas and the Arabs in general will get out of this showing of Israeli overkill.

So I need to understand the rationale behind Israel's attitude regarding the Arabs.

Most websites will automatically censor my comments whenever I mention the fact that the ever growing Arab population in Israel needs to be helped financially to emigrate. This suggestion is considered extremely offensive and thrown into the recycle bin. But other people's comments that cheer on the blasting of any Arab - including children - are considered politically correct.

Keep in mind that I'm quite aware of how Arab children are being brainwashed into becoming killers, and that parents think nothing of sending their sons or daughters to martyrdom. I have no illusions whatsoever about Arab society, and that's precisely why I think that for the sake of Israel's very survival, Arabs cannot be allowed to grow to a greater percentage of the population. The frequent attacks on Jews within the Green Line, how Arabs push Jews away from their neighborhoods, or how they harass the religious or any Jew for that matter, all that makes a mockery of Israel as a home for the Jews.

Furthermore, if Israel does the only sane thing and annexes the territories, there will be an increased problem with the Arab population within.

It's not the time and place to argue why I believe Jews are the legitimate inhabitants of the land of Israel, including the territories. My point is that had Israel done the right thing in 1967 and annexed the territories and placed the Arab population across the border in Egypt and Jordan, there would have been a temporary outcry, but everything would be settled now. And believe me, everyone, including the Arabs, would be living in much better conditions.

But the Israelis considered such actions distasteful... and still do. They reek of ethnic cleansing, something that bad people do. But they don't mind going into the terrorists' dens and shoot both terrorists and civilians.

The Arabs are repeat offenders. They attack Israel again and again. Israel retaliates and kills terrorists and civilians alike. Not the IDF's fault. Kids and women are used as human shields. Still. It's not good to see bodies of children piled up.

So why not put an end to the problem of the territories and incorporate them into Israel and encourage all Arabs to move on to Arab lands. A great deal of money has been spent keeping this population in limbo. Why not pay $100,000 or $200,000 or more to each family and let them build better lives elsewhere. Polls show that most Gaza and PA Arabs wish to emigrate. Their society is rife with violence and corruption. Between statehood and well-financed emigration (to Europe or Latin America), they would choose emigration.

I don't expect the Arabs to ever accept the Jews in the Middle East, but at least, by securing Judea, Samaria, Gaza, Gola and Jerusalem, Israel would have a chance to survive as a country. Without its heartland, and without the land corridor between Gaza and the PA that Israel is expected to give up so that Arabs can have a viable state, Israel won't survive for very long.

So why in the Israeli mind is annexation and Arab emigration distasteful but the killing of civilians is acceptable, and - very importantly - why are Israelis willing to risk the future slaughter of Jews when the better armed and more empowered Palestinian State starts launching rockets from all directions.

Submitting....

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Could Mr Pipes or anyone help me understand why [623 words]Marcella, USJan 7, 2009 15:38147331
stop the misunderstanding on muslims attitude especially on martyrdorm [228 words]maiyangJan 9, 2009 00:45147331
ARAB EMIGRATION [135 words]CaroleJan 24, 2009 13:18147331
Whose land for peace? [757 words]Halley FaustJan 7, 2009 14:28147322
Media, the Craven Enemy of Humanity -- Ignores Legal Definition of "Disproportionate" and Uses the Sound Bite to Disinform -- Dore Gold Clarifies [205 words]Sofa SogoodJan 6, 2009 07:50147117
No No out-of-context givebacks! [87 words]MelMJan 5, 2009 23:50147089
Israel, That Special Country [241 words]JayJan 5, 2009 20:20147070
Mazel Tov but.. has Ehud Olmert learnt from the mistakes of 2006? [292 words]ShishirJan 5, 2009 13:50147025
Civilian populations enable terrorists [288 words]MichaelJan 5, 2009 12:18147020
The Withdraw for the Sinai was a terrible mistake ( and when many unsolvable problems began ) [69 words]James BurkeJan 5, 2009 10:51146996
Have Israelis Finally Learned that giving up their land which the LORD God has given them is not theirs but Gods! [155 words]VigilantJan 5, 2009 10:30146990
Prove to me that religion is true [74 words]Badr HariJan 9, 2009 15:33146990
Massacre of Israelis [104 words]CaroleJan 24, 2009 12:57146990
Israel should not give up one acre of land...Ever! [91 words]Ames TiedemanJan 5, 2009 09:17146977
i hope israel is not giving up any land [28 words]thomasMar 3, 2010 19:28146977
The Morality of War [173 words]Ralph C Whaley MDJan 5, 2009 08:17146968
Territory [18 words]PhillipJan 5, 2009 07:33146965
Self-defense [168 words]Jolly JackJan 5, 2009 05:31146955
Hamas Out? PA In [325 words]Prof. Paul EidelbergJan 5, 2009 03:11146945
Media, the Craven Enemy of Humanity -- Ignores Definition of "Disproportionate" and Uses the Sound Bite to Disinform -- Dore Gold Clarifies [206 words]Sofa SogoodJan 5, 2009 02:47146942
Disproportionality of Israeli Response ? [349 words]Stephen HughesJan 4, 2009 15:41146884
Disproportionality -- Nonsense [39 words]Romesh ChanderJan 5, 2009 01:45146884
What is a proper proportion in warfare? [75 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 5, 2009 16:59146884
Maximum terror/minimum damage has its advantages (for Hamas) [131 words]MelMJan 5, 2009 17:37146884
Fresh Thinking is Needed [822 words]Steve BermanJan 4, 2009 10:28146863
I wish, but it misses the point: RELIGION [990 words]der AlleswisserJan 4, 2009 20:19146863
If Egypt were to possess Gaza... [48 words]Matthew C. MasottiJan 3, 2009 16:29146765
Egypt does not want any part of Gaza [112 words]Romesh ChanderJan 5, 2009 01:41146765
It's not just about territory [134 words]Fred SchlomkaJan 3, 2009 10:38146744
Have Israelis Finally Learned the Strategic Value of Territory? [2739 words]Tess McNamara B.A. Women's Studies, B.A Family Studies, Student of Islam....(Australia)Jan 3, 2009 04:38146716
Magnanimous Speech. [195 words]SvetlanachkahJan 4, 2009 14:34146716
Bravo Tess! You survived the liberal, academic community, [15 words]Kerry L. WinnJan 5, 2009 08:46146716
All good points except [38 words]ShishirJan 5, 2009 13:37146716
Palestinian People Must Feel the Pain [142 words]John HarrisJan 2, 2009 22:02146698
flaws in the argument [91 words]yuval BrandstetterJan 4, 2009 13:02146698
A brilliant observation Mr. Harris and so true [122 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 6, 2009 09:20146698
Mr. Pipes: I asked you years ago to not use the misnomer. "War on Terror " as there is no such thing. [77 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Steve BorkowskiJan 2, 2009 16:32146671
Land for Peace policy [114 words]Jon PurizhanskyJan 2, 2009 11:54146656
What about Sinai [61 words]WayneJan 2, 2009 04:14146637
No Wayne [35 words]Kerry L. WinnJan 5, 2009 08:50146637

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