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"Jihad, genocide, janissaries..." - the Turkish contribution to European civilization

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Nov 8, 2008 at 13:04

Turk from Turkey wrote :

"Turkish has no word for fatherland because unlike imperial greeks, ancient Turkish people were nomads."

Hence they had the word "yurt" to describe the temporary place where they put up their tents. Ataturk- the xenophobe - tried to replace the Arabic "vatan" with "yurt". But the blotted Turkish a... shines through the stolen clothes that adorn the Asiatic Turkish body. Turks have no homeland. They have robbed the property they are living in now - both in Anatolia and in Cyprus. They are different from other robbers that they blame the victims for their barbaric Islam-inspired robberies.

>And you may not understand being a nomad, living in the wild caring for the herds and traveling as the climate changes. A nomad does not have borders. A nomad does not draw borders and conquer soil for agriculture because a nomad may not be as civilized as a greek tyran who would fight and kill people for his self-proclaimed private poperty.<

Nice to learn from you, my new supreme "authority" on ethnography, that e.g. the Huns -the forefathers of the Turks- were as peace-loving and good-neighbourly as you in your glorious naivety depict them!!!! The nomads are the most rapacious and bloodthirty looters and murderers and kidnapers in history. Whatever they can't carry off, they destroy and burn down. Wherever a nomadic tribe borders on a sedentary population the latter is exposed to never ending devastating raids by the nomads.

The first victims of the Turkish barbarity were the Iranians. The Avestan concept of the struggle between the good eh evil has as its backgound the eternal struggle between the sedentary and the nomadic. Balkh where Zarathustra composed his holy book is a borderland to the nomadic steppes. Later these barbarians - the Seljuks headed by Togrul Bey and inadvertantly invited by Mahmud Gazni subjugated Iran to their primitive rule.

Another revealing example is the Russian expansion in Central Asia or in the Southern steppes. The nomadic Turkic raids forced the Russians to put an end to them militarily. When in 1881 the Russians captured the Turkmen fortress Gok Tekke they freed innumerable Persian slaves and received thanks from the shah. One could multiply such examples ad infinitum.

>So there cannot be a Turkish word for homeland in the ancient times, since a Turk belongs to the world and nature beyond all borders and regulations.<

The borders of the nomads were only the stronger tribes than temselves. As to 'regulations", you're right. The noamds were all illiterates and acknwledge no written contracts and agreements, hence it's useless to conlcude any with them. They will never abide by them. Nomadic life means total lawlessness unless you conceive raw force as a "regulation".

>It is civilization which call for wars and conquers.<

If by "civilization" you mean "Islam", you are right. It's Islam that does call for permanent jihad. Anyway, what sort of "civilazation" lslam stands for you may guess from Ataturk's saying "Islam -that theology of an immoral beduin is a decaying corpse that has been poisoning all our life". (By the way, Turkey is 99,8% Islamic! Thanks to you Ataturk, dear father of all Turkish "secularists"! ;)

>When Europe is not fighting with the Turks, are they living peacefully??<

Our internal strives and wranglings are a trifle compared to the deadly threat posed to Europe by the Ottoman jihad. You effaced so many states from the face of the earth. You tried to make such a piece of sh... of Europe as you have made of any country and any nation that was unfortunate to succumb to your yoke and Islamisation machine, Moslem bastards!

> Even during siege of vienna, the holy alliance, the french invaded her neighbour country as an oppurtunity attack.<

In 1914 caliph Mehmet V - "the shadow of Allah on earth"- declared solemnly a jihad on the Entente. Soon afterwards the pious Moslems of Arabia made an uprising against this very "shadow of Allah on earth" hunting Turks wherever they could find them. The reunion policy of France was not a matter of religion. The Arab uprising was a jihad as every war teh Arbs conduct is a jihad.

>So you may stop using racist and religious propoganda and be rightful and honorable.<

"Racist" - it's a remarkable term in the mouth of a Turk. Have you forgotten what they taught you at school? Turkic peoples are the spreme race of humanity. All civilization originated in the Turkic race (irk). Turkic language is the blue print and foundation of every language on earth etc etc. ...the holy nonsense invented by Gazi Mustafa Kemal ... "Ne mutlu türküm diyene".

> And please stop moaning like a loser about your "high" culture.<

I'll do that the moment you recall that in your forefathers' language -Oslamlica- "Turk" was a synonym for "uncouth barbarian", "illierate scoundrel". Perhaps you'll deny that ?


>By the way i have always been fascinated how Greeks are ashamed of their forefathers practicing homosexual acts.<

It's much better than zoophilia practised by ancient Turks that stands behind the Turkic foundation myth of Ashina and the she-wolf that he impreganted with 10 sons -the heads of the main heads of the Turkic tribes. Isn't it that dog blood in your veins that has made human dogs of you Turks?

>From spartans to Achilles almost every Greek soldier is bisexual but Greeks are always in denial.<

If what you say were true, than Greeks would have long been an extinc nation. As to Sparta, who was Helene of Sparta? Who was Paris? Why did Achilles refuse to fight? Who was Bryseis? How does the Illiad start? ... No Helelnic woman was an illiterate Turkish female slave bought and treated by the "loving" Turk like shit -in full accordance with the Islamic "vision" of women as inferior beings.

You, Moslem pig, can't even imagine the status and role of women in Hellenic history. And yet you Moslem blockhead and big-mouthed ignoramus are still trying to teach me on things I have a degree in. "Sus Minervam docet" - as the Romans used to say.

> I mean even if you can deny this, you can deny everything. At worst you can watch history channel.<

What do you know about history, Moslem? For saying a bad thing about Turkishness you are threatened with 3 years imprisonment. And instead of concentrating on that shameful reality of your country, you find faults with others who enjoy liberty as granted to criticise whomever they like. Tell me why Kemal's wife's memoirs are so desperately concealed? Was she too candid on your new "prophet"'s vices among which homosexuality was very prominent? But I don't care about that. The main problem with him is that he was responsible for a genocide and that his deceitful policy was a failure.

> Everyone knows the truth thanks to your ancient libraries.<

Have you ever read a single Greek book, Moslem? I do doubt it!

>Yes as a Turk i am a godless stupid horrible bastard>

... "godless" ? Well, You don't believe in Allah and his jihad? If you don't then why this 1000-year old jihad against the Greeks, the Serbs, the Bulgarians, the Russians, the Persians, the Arabs...? Why these 77 000 mosques cross Turkey? Why these throngs in every mosques every Friday? Was Islam just a big lie? Too big to be deposed and admit the giant universal mistake on which teh whole of Turkey has been erected?

>and you being born as a Greek, superior to me.<

Mark it, Moslem! I am not a Greek. I am a Pole and a European and every European -worthy of the name- does know that we owe most good things we have to Hellenism and that you Turkish barbarians have been -after the Arabs- the greatest disaster that has affected this continent and that no peace is ever possible with you.

What contribution did you make to our civilization? Jihad, genocide, janissaries, hordes, harems, haraj ...This is what you Turks and your spurious "vatan" do stand for!!!

(By the way "kebab" is a Persian word.)

>I dont know what you did to deserve to be born as a super-man, and alas in my previous life what did i do to be born as a filthy Turk?<

I know it's hard to imagine for a Turk that someone can be no Greek or Armenian at all and be just interested in the subject. So I do repeat - I am no Greek. Truth has nothing to do with nationality. Self-glorification of the Turk - fortified by the fear of paragraph 313 - does.

As to metempsychosis, recall what unrepented and heinous crimes against humanity you forefathers have perpetrated since they first appeared on the horizon of European Byzantine history around A.D. 1048 ? If you do, you may well understand why you fully deserve the epithet you self-apply. Türkler barbadir.

>Be aware, be rightful..Open you mind...<

Be courageous and admit that parapgraph 313 is the best indication that Turkey is a third-world Oriental despotic police state and Turks are terrorized, brain-washed parrots instinctively repeating the the lies and nonsense concocted by the new beglerbegs that are in fact ruling this country.

Submitting....

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Your reply to my comments Rattled Susan [292 words]Guy Leven-Torres (Agricola)May 16, 2007 04:0892116
not interested anymore [162 words]susanMay 16, 2007 16:3492116
Is this all people do on this site? [135 words]Guy Leven-Torres (Agricola)May 16, 2007 18:0292116
Susan I like you [98 words]dihmmi no moreMay 16, 2007 18:1092116
sounds reasonable [142 words]N.J.Oct 20, 2009 01:1692116
Turkey: The wrong place to look for the Moderates [283 words]Rick HouseMay 8, 2007 16:2592114
A Muslim will only be considered Moderate if he will support .............. [171 words]JeorjiMay 9, 2007 00:1392114
Cast it from your own eye before you ask others to... [269 words]Rick HouseMay 11, 2007 01:2292114
rick house, so many things you don't know [477 words]susanMay 13, 2007 09:3492114
Susan, the point I was making... [548 words]Rick HouseMay 14, 2007 01:5892114
all in the name of the gray area [664 words]susanMay 15, 2007 17:0692114
Percentage [15 words]wolfgangMay 8, 2007 16:2492112
So called Moderate Muslims are very tiny minority which is fooling west to let its guard down [84 words]GogaMay 9, 2007 00:2192112
Turks, maybe. Arabs, never [116 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDMay 8, 2007 15:5892096
Reply to Yuval Brandstetter MD [148 words]EuropeanMuslimMay 8, 2007 23:5392096
point taken [152 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDMay 10, 2007 07:5892096
EuropeanMuslim [202 words]true believerMay 10, 2007 12:3692096
Beni Israel or the last Jew of Afghanistan [410 words]IanusMay 10, 2007 13:3392096
Dreams of a "great" ally [297 words]IanusMay 10, 2007 19:3092096
on the other hand [119 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDMay 12, 2007 03:3292096
What would a topic about Turkey be without... [36 words]shaking my headMay 12, 2007 19:4292096
On the other hand [37 words]IanusMay 13, 2007 03:4692096
What would a topic about Turkey be without...the bitter truth [226 words]IanusMay 13, 2007 05:4292096
ianus is not greek or armenian [68 words]susanMay 13, 2007 09:3992096
For our dear "Shaking my head" and hate? What hate? [214 words]dhimmi no moreMay 13, 2007 16:5692096
On the other hand [31 words]IanusMay 14, 2007 16:4992096
to Yuval on Pakistan [94 words]ASMay 18, 2007 06:3492096
Dr. Pipes, please define "moderate Muslims" [352 words]Nahum KipnisMay 8, 2007 15:5292095
One Land, One Flag , One Constitution !! Why two laws ?? Why muslim personal law or Shariat ? [59 words]CikaimMay 9, 2007 00:4092095
What About Israel? [42 words]AlexMay 8, 2007 15:5092094
A Million Moderate Muslims on the March [155 words]Carl GoldbergMay 8, 2007 15:2492093
By non-Muslim busybodies, I suppose you mean Western foreign ministers [20 words]Mark JamesMay 8, 2007 14:5192091
Apples and Oranges [441 words]Alo KievalarMay 8, 2007 14:4192089
What makes a Muslim a moderate? [251 words]PatMay 8, 2007 22:5092089
Apples, Oranges, Prunes [770 words]AloMay 10, 2007 12:4392089
Alo - read the news [365 words]PatMay 10, 2007 19:3992089
churches and synagogues are destroyed in muslim countries [72 words]susanMay 13, 2007 09:4392089
They DO Exist! [316 words]Dr. Richard BenkinMay 8, 2007 14:3692088
Definitely Brave Muslims [177 words]PatMay 8, 2007 23:2592088
Moderate is as Moderate Does? [406 words]Dr. Richard BenkinMay 9, 2007 17:4992088
Moderate - It's in the eye of the beholder [324 words]PatMay 10, 2007 19:1692088
Context [521 words]Dr. Richard BenkinMay 11, 2007 18:4192088
Choice is Islamic Supremacy or Human Freedom [330 words]PatMay 12, 2007 14:5892088
What did non-muslim religious leaders say about the Salman Rushdie fatwa? [107 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
william marsanoMay 26, 2007 16:5392088
Courage is not the absence of fear..... [32 words]KatJun 11, 2007 09:3392088
moderate or militant... [68 words]donvanJun 11, 2007 11:2392088
Support and Help those moderate muslims who are vocal and active in opposing Islamism . [281 words]Bangla BandhuJun 16, 2007 05:3192088
"Democratically" Elected? [227 words]Ron ThompsonJun 19, 2007 14:0592088
It would take a fool... [17 words]JoshuaJun 19, 2007 21:5792088
Too much energy [118 words]donvanOct 9, 2007 10:3392088
with my best intention [205 words]Zisan SumerJun 14, 2008 06:1492088
Moderate Muslams [156 words]donvanJul 8, 2008 10:5692088
"Erudite" contributors to this forum may never understand the dangers of Islam! [899 words]Joseph Guida MDDec 8, 2008 16:3892088
Dr. Joseph Guida's World View [284 words]Dr. Richard BenkinDec 8, 2008 18:0992088
Dr. Benkin, esteemed contibutor to this site...I'll tell you what to do with them! [869 words]Joseph Guida MDDec 11, 2008 03:1892088
So you dare me to find a moderate Muslim who supports the State of Israel... [371 words]Dr. Richard BenkinDec 12, 2008 06:5492088
Moderate Islam is only a phase [249 words]muminsalihMay 8, 2007 14:2892087
I am not scared of terrorists, but I am scared of Dr. Pipes and his Moderate Muslims [165 words]Roosevelt's DiscipleMay 8, 2007 14:2692086
let's count how many christians and jews have been murdered by the moderate muslims [95 words]susanMay 9, 2007 15:4292086
Dear Susan again. Never seen it done, it but I'll tell you all about it! [229 words]Guy Leven-Torres (Agricola)May 14, 2007 18:4392086
Our dear Guy again? [70 words]dhimmi no moreMay 15, 2007 07:4892086
whiny muslim apologist? [392 words]susanMay 15, 2007 15:4092086
Second reply to 'Susan' [315 words]guy leven-torres (Agricola)May 16, 2007 04:4692086
Reply to the above Susan diatribes etc [397 words]guy leven-torres (Agricola)May 16, 2007 05:0992086
dhimmi please read this [78 words]susanMay 16, 2007 17:3392086
You still did not answer my question [16 words]dhimmi no moreMay 16, 2007 17:3792086
I thought Dr Pipes website excellent but..... [391 words]Guy Leven-Torres (Agricola)May 16, 2007 18:5192086
to Guy [118 words]ASMay 18, 2007 07:0392086
I know that you can take care of yourself [45 words]dihmmi no moreMay 18, 2007 07:0492086
Excellent article Dr. Pipes - but the moderate muslims have a long road ahead of them [99 words]SullyMay 8, 2007 14:2592085
A leopard has yet to change its spots [94 words]David W. LincolnMay 8, 2007 13:5592083
moderate Muslims [93 words]moderate Muslim numero unoMay 8, 2007 13:4792081
1 million moderate Muslims march [66 words]Charles OrenMay 8, 2007 13:2592080
Moderate by What Standard? [341 words]Ron ThompsonMay 8, 2007 13:2492079
The term needs defining [161 words]PatMay 8, 2007 23:0992079
Moderate by What Standard ? ... By police-staged demonstrations , I presume. [256 words]IanusMay 9, 2007 10:1392079
Here are some stats [113 words]Noah WilkMay 10, 2007 15:1392079
Thanks for the stats , Noah ! [49 words]IanusMay 10, 2007 19:3992079
For your kind information " Altaf Hussain is in UK and cannot return to Pakistan as he will be killled as soon as he will enter pakistan. [184 words]ZekuMay 8, 2007 13:2192078
he is scum of the world [37 words]khalid taqiMay 12, 2007 12:3392078
Murderer Of Thousands Of People [76 words]MuhajirMay 20, 2007 11:1092078
terrorist [63 words]khizerMay 21, 2007 02:4392078
About Altaf Hussain [376 words]ZeeshanJun 12, 2007 18:2492078
Relavance of Moderate Muslims [72 words]Anthony P. MarinoMay 8, 2007 13:0592077
'Million Muslims on the March' [170 words]Buzz GunningMay 8, 2007 12:2792076
RE A Million Muslims [369 words]J OvertonMay 8, 2007 12:1592075
Absurd Idealism [193 words]Martin KaufmanMay 8, 2007 11:4892073
Islamic states in Europe [92 words]IanusMay 8, 2007 17:5192073
There were also moderate peaceloving Germans during WWII , but were they successful in stoping Nazis from Holocaust ?? [397 words]NorkiMay 8, 2007 22:2892073
There are at least three of them! [19 words]MosheMay 9, 2007 09:2792073
Thanks ! [33 words]IanusMay 10, 2007 16:5092073
"Moderate" -What does THAT mean? [159 words]Steven HessMay 8, 2007 11:3992071
Other religions have subdivisions [133 words]PatMay 9, 2007 00:0992071
prophecies of Daniel pipes.. [93 words]Steeve PariseauMay 8, 2007 10:4992068
WESTERN INTERFERENCE OR LACK OF CLOUT? [54 words]Robert ThomasMay 8, 2007 10:3692067
Dustbins of history [357 words]IanusMay 8, 2007 10:2792063
There is a new muslim every single second of every hour of every day... [80 words]Roosevelt's DiscipleMay 8, 2007 17:4892063
What We Need Is The Separation Of Religion and State Not Moderate Moslems [51 words]skmillerMay 9, 2007 10:3392063
Ridiculous debate about existence of "moderate" Muslims!!! [104 words]JaladhiMay 9, 2007 13:3592063
Moderate Humanitarian Muslim caught planning to assasinate Israeli PM Olmert ! [104 words]CareMay 17, 2007 06:4792063
Jihadi commentary on election of Sarkozy [70 words]viniMay 18, 2007 03:3692063
Claire Berlinski's Sun. May 6 Washingon Post Piece [67 words]Thomas GroomeMay 8, 2007 10:1292062
What solution do they offer? [240 words]William R J ScottMay 8, 2007 10:1292061
Marches in Turkey [17 words]LeoMay 8, 2007 10:0092060
too little too late... [130 words]donvanMay 8, 2007 09:2792056
But Do Moderates Have a Real Chance? [215 words]Alain Jean-MairetMay 8, 2007 09:2192054
About Blindness... [170 words]J.S.May 8, 2007 09:1292053
A Moderate Israeli Arab Muslim helped Islamic Terrorist to murder Innocent Jews in Israel [46 words]LevMay 8, 2007 09:0392052
Moderate Muslims [40 words]Irish SavantMay 8, 2007 07:3992050
Moderate Muslims and True Muslims [68 words]IanusMay 8, 2007 17:2892050
3Non Muslims are fools wasting time in debating non existent Moderate Islam where as Muslims are marching towards a global Islamic Caliphate [60 words]XenaMay 9, 2007 00:5292050
The Trial [24 words]robert aMay 10, 2007 03:1492050
while the world burns, we debate if moderate Muslims exist??? [82 words]JaladhiMay 12, 2007 19:3392050
Non Muslims say " Islam means Peace " and Muslims say " Hayya al Jehad " and " Kill Americans , Jews and Infidels" [392 words]MagnoMay 13, 2007 06:0392050
To Irish Savant. [115 words]maura collinsMay 13, 2007 08:1192050
British Army changed decision because of Jehadi Threats to murder Prince Harry !!! [78 words]WarriorMay 16, 2007 13:1992050
Turkish Delight [353 words]Rebecca MouldsMay 8, 2007 07:3892049
no way to go except Islam [60 words]strong believerMay 11, 2007 16:3592049
You're right! Only Muslims practice and admire throat slashing. [15 words]MosheMay 13, 2007 04:0592049
1no way to go to hell except by Islam - a maniac confesses [269 words]IanusMay 14, 2007 07:5192049
I guess I missed something ?!?! What's your proof ? [38 words]TimothyMay 16, 2007 21:3992049
Unique or abberant ? [67 words]true believerMay 21, 2007 06:2392049
Fact or Fiction ? [241 words]Dimitri NitsolovDec 11, 2009 16:5592049
quote ... [106 words]Victor PurintonMay 8, 2007 07:3892047
1Mr. Daniel Pipes the great - A Scorching Saint of 21st Century [157 words]Judeo ChrislamMay 8, 2007 07:3492046

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