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Fred Shlomka's comments re: conversion to Judaism in Israel
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Submitted by Mike (United States), Sep 20, 2008 at 22:42

Fred stated In pre-state Palestine, Muslim, Christian, and Jewish communities were geographically and culturally very close. Marriages between villages were common, with the women coverting to the religion of the community she married in to.

I'm pretty sure that many Jewish & Christian women married into Muslim families. In many cases, they converted. Islamic Sharia allows Muslim men to take Jewish & Christian women as wives, the non-Musliom wives are permitted to retain their religion (although encouraged to adopt Islam) but are required to raise any children who are issue of the marriage to as Muslims. Muslim women are completely forbidden from marrying out, unless the husband adopts Islam, in which case they haven;t married "out".

Even with the upsurge of the Islamic Movement in israel today, Muslims accept occasional conversions. It's the Jewish community in israel that has often violent reactions to conversionsof Jews to other religions.

The Muslim community will always be very hostile (to put it mildly) at anyone who abandons Islam for Judaism or any other faith. They will embrace converts TO Islam, although I've heard stories of Israeli Jewish women who were poorly treated in Arab villages after they married Muslim men, even after they converted to Islam.

Jewish converts are welcomed into their new communities whereas they are usually orstacised by their families and Jewish society.

I assume you are speaking of Jews who convert to Islam. Yes, naturally it upsets many Jews who know of the history of Jews being subjected to forced conversions in the past, and targeted by Christian and Islamic missionary activity alike, when their fellow Jews abandon the faith of their fathers and the Jewish community. Personally I believe in the religious free market and that any individual should have autonomy to decide where his religious beliefs lie (or not), but given that the Jews are a tiny minority in the world, its upsetting when some leave the fold. Also

Muslim converts to Judaism are viewed with suspicion and the new family usually shunned, often ending up back in the Muslim community.

You know, I've heard of very few cases of such a thing occurring, when it does, probably it happens in Israel when either an Israeli Arab marries into a Jewish family or when such an individual wishes to abandon his Muslim roots and thinks conversion to Judaism will be his entry card into Israel society. Religious Judaism tells people to love and accept the convert, in practice there is always suspicion and reluctance to convert someone. For one thing, Jews living in Christian and Muslim lands were for a long time forbidden to convert Christians and Muslims to Judaism on pain of death. Orthodox Judaism says to embrace the convert who sincerely wishes to adopt the path of following Jewish law, but to make sure he or she is not doing it for some ulterior motives first--that ulterior motive may be in some cases to marry into a Jewish family, to get Israeli citizenship, a job opportunity, etc. In the case of Arabs adopting Judaism, rabbis wish to know why they wish to convert, especially as Orth Judaism has a positive attitude to Islam, believe it or not.


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respect all religions [131 words]peaceDec 12, 2009 16:21
respect all religions [41 words]SteadyfriendDec 29, 2009 14:42
Nobody can convert you to Hinduism [238 words]Martin LutherNov 21, 2007 01:45
Good article [5 words]DipankarSep 26, 2008 06:19
conversion [238 words]sekarApr 20, 2009 05:02
Thats true! [76 words]SANDEEPOct 26, 2009 00:07
if more black muslims studied judaism they would see more in common.. [203 words]david pittsSep 30, 2007 01:23
Deport them. [19 words]Anand NairJan 19, 2007 10:59
One possible answer for the difference in conversion rates ... [60 words]SeanJul 21, 2006 17:00
Difficulties in converting to Judaism [206 words]Fred SchlomkaJul 25, 2006 08:58
What information do you have of Muslims and Jews converting to Christianity? [78 words]William WatsonJul 18, 2006 16:18
Conversions in India [21 words]MahendraJul 17, 2006 07:52
to Mahendra on Muslims converting ot Hinduism [33 words]Anubhav SinghJul 24, 2006 02:55
Reverts to Islam [154 words]Chandrajeet PadhyNov 24, 2006 11:18
Life of Converts in Israel [59 words]Amir Ali TayyabNov 29, 2006 18:26
i am now Usha Kumari, formerly known as Salma Noor [248 words]Salma NoorJan 21, 2007 08:23
Hinduism [7 words]AmirJan 31, 2007 05:50
Welcome to Hinduism, and wishing you all the very best [249 words]Gopal KamatJan 31, 2007 09:52
You have done the best decision [102 words]s.azizMar 3, 2007 18:47
Don't forget, the origins of your faith [76 words]EfraimMar 9, 2007 03:22
to Salma Noor [123 words]MohamedApr 8, 2007 14:21
Usha Kumari - Have a blissful life!!! [59 words]JaladhiApr 9, 2007 15:13
to mohamed's reply to salma [129 words]doodleMay 4, 2007 19:46
Salma- please refrain from such comments. [11 words]ABHILASH PILLAIMay 21, 2007 06:19
USHA KUMARI IS AN EXAMPLE ONLY [359 words]kishor kumarMay 23, 2007 09:07
HINDUISM [416 words]surferJun 12, 2007 10:57
Thanks Miss Usha Kumari [238 words]rudraJul 16, 2007 09:50
funny [43 words]saraJul 20, 2007 12:46
Please Know Hindu Religion Properly... [357 words]Thanks! A good writing...Jul 21, 2007 20:43
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read [24 words]saraSep 26, 2007 01:34
Yes, muslim apostates from Islam are often killed, beaten, or receive death threats [193 words]saraSep 26, 2007 17:21
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ISLAM AND LAST PROPHET [198 words]AJAY RATHORENov 12, 2007 04:17
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Usha [34 words]shreyaJan 30, 2008 22:50
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to mohamed [65 words]ayushApr 17, 2008 08:38
Congratulations SISTER! [99 words]Bharat SinhaAug 1, 2008 20:39
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Muslim Conversions in India [234 words]GauravSep 24, 2008 16:07
Muslims converting to Hinduism [156 words]MahendraSep 24, 2008 19:02
to mohammed [189 words]RiddhimaSep 25, 2008 15:08
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@ mohammed [29 words]kumarSep 27, 2008 06:37
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A forlorn hope [155 words]Mahendra MathurMay 15, 2009 23:12
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Fasih's waffle [257 words]MahendraDec 16, 2009 15:13
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Fithna [64 words]FareedMar 1, 2010 13:14
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Changes [21 words]Tom DundeeMar 3, 2010 12:58
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Muslims converting to Judaism in Israel!!! [97 words]Romesh ChanderJul 16, 2006 19:26
No Fatwas in Israel [216 words]Fred SchlomkaJul 17, 2006 01:05
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⇒ Fred Shlomka's comments re: conversion to Judaism in Israel [531 words]MikeSep 20, 2008 22:42
Islam, the religion of truth [62 words]The son of IslamFeb 15, 2009 14:26
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a question for Anubhav Singh [122 words]concernedJul 22, 2006 09:27
response to concerned [237 words]Anubhav SinghJul 24, 2006 03:16
thanks, Anubhav [73 words]concernedJul 25, 2006 06:27
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Conversuion to Judiasm! [35 words]SaifAug 3, 2008 12:48
Contact any orthodox synagogue in the United States and make an appointment with the rabbi [56 words]MalkielAug 15, 2008 12:52
She can convert. And her husband can convert with her [37 words]MalkielAug 15, 2008 12:55
Conversion [78 words]ADNov 11, 2009 18:08
Conspicuous absence of data on Muslim and Jewish conversions to Xianity [28 words]Mark JamesJul 15, 2006 18:31
Consipicuous absence indeed [8 words]l.d.Mar 15, 2007 10:27

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