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The forged bible

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in response to reader comment: "Bible corruption, what Bible corruption? what does the Qur'an say/"

Submitted by sTs (United Arab Emirates), Sep 7, 2008 at 14:00

You wrote me a newspaper, it is difficult for me to read all, I am too old for that, however, I will reply to you in short comments.

first of all - the reference that God's words cannot be changed is reference to the Quran not to the Bible, it is true that the Gospel and Torah are sent down on Jesus and Moses, but there are many books that are written by ordinary people, like luke, john, matthew, mark, and many others. these books are not from God, the words of God on the tongue of Jesus, Moses, David were altered

Second - there are verses in the Quran that tell you that the people of the book manipulated, changed, twisted the words of God and changed their locations in the book.

I will give you references from the Quran and bible

"Indeed God took the covenant from the children of Israel (The Jews), and We appointed twelve leadersamong them. and God said "I am with you if you perform regular prayer and give charity, believe in My Messengers and assist them, and lend a good load to God, verily, I will expiate your sins and admit you to Gardens under which rivers flow. But if any of you after this , disbelieved, he has indeed gone astray from the Straight Path. {} So because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words (of God) from their places and have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them. And you will not cease to discover deceit in them, except a few of them. But forgive them (O Mohammad) and overlook (their misdeeds). Verily God Loves those who do good" (Q 5:12-13)

"O Messenger (Mohammad), let not those who hurry in disbelief grieve you, of such who say: "We believe" with their mouths but their hearts have no faith. And of the Jews are men who listen much eagerly to lies, listen to others who have not come to you. They change the words (of God) from their places; They say: "If you are given this, take it, but if you are not given this, then beware!" And whomsoever God wants to put in error (because of his rejection), you can do nothing for him against God. Those are the ones whose hearts God does not want to purify; for them there is a disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a great tornment" (Q 5: 41)

"Those among the Children of Israel who disbelieved were cursed by the tongue of David and Jesus son of Mary, that was because they disobeyed and were ever transgressing beyond bounds" (Q 5:78)

"Among those who are Jews, there are some who displace words (of God) from their (right) places and say: "We hear your word and disobey" and "Hear may you not hear" and "Ra'ina" with a twist of their tongues and a slander to Faith. If only they had said "We hear and we obey" and "Do hear" and "Do look at us"; it would be better fo rthem, and more proper; but God hath cursed them of their unbelief; and few of them will believe." (Q 4:46)

From the bible

John 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

John 8:59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

God hid himself from the Jews!!!!!!!!!

I ask you the following questions in the bible

  1. Who is the great nation that God promised Abraham through Ishmael
  2. Why Jesus said "Eli Eli lama shabastani" while on the cross - was he please to be crucified?
  3. Why Jesus said "I am not good, only one is Good, only God" - is then Jesus God?
  4. Who was sacrifised Ishmael or Isaac, read about the 17 year old (Ishmael) being a child carried by his mother (Hagar) on her shoulders and worried that he might die.
  5. What was the age of Isaac when sacrifice took place.?
  6. How can prophethood be stolen from one person by another (Jacob from his elder brother) bought the right birth. - Is it not God who chooses prophets?
  7. How can Jacob mother scheme with him to replace his brother for his father (Isaac) plessings and inheriting the prophethood.
  8. Did not Jacob run away to sham (Syria) afraid of his brother revenge??
  9. Where is God in this
  10. Lot and His daughters, how can a drunken man (virtious man) allow his daughters to sleep with him and conceive. how can have the ability to sleep when he is so drunk???

Do you see how many problems there are in the bible.... but I have not finished yet

The bottom line -

  1. the Quran and God tells us that the Bible was corrupted by the people of the book,
  2. The church admitted they changed the words of God in the book (corrupted it) to meet the needs of the eras they live in.
  3. History tells us that the book was forged,
  4. Barnaba Gospel tell us differently that what is in the current bible - and this gospel is the earliest copy in history that is found more than any other Gospel. in it there Jesus mention the name of Mohammad and in it Jesus tell the Jews they change the words of God

There is every indication to show that the current bibles are forged. there are 100s of different versions

We have only ONE version (THE HOLY QURAN) and it icannot ever be forged or corrupted

I challenge you to find me any corruption

Also I suggest your read the book "The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Gospel of Barnabas and the New Testament" - American Trust Publication - Indiana

The Gospel of Barnaba is earlier than any Gospel exist on earth. rejected by the church, because the name of Mohammad is written their.

Submitting....

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