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Mansoor: You are doing a good job of bringing up the worst features of Islam

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Submitted by Plato (India), Sep 5, 2008 at 22:12

Mansoor,

You wrote:

>>As usual you did a great job by quoting incomplete text. Have it in detail as below!!!<<

Read the version you have given, without giving the reference to whose hadith it is and my version where I had given the references. I had cut out the beginning, without distorting its meaning. Read it again and show me that I tried to deliberately hide anything. You are very free with your accusations.

Your version is very different from what I had quoted except that one has to repent AND repeat the shahada to reach paradise. On one's death bed one is likely to regret and repent many things in life but why make the poor dying soul repeat the shahada?? Allah's Almighty Ego again??

I also seriously suspect like Hirshi that you are not what you claim to be and are out to bring out the negative features of Islam. Good!

I am away for a few weeks. I will give you a detailed response when I am back.

Abu Dharr (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: I came to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) while he was wearing white clothes and sleeping. I went back to him again after he had got up from his sleep. He said, "Nobody says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah' and then later on he dies while believing in that, except that he will enter Paradise." I said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?" He said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft." I said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?" He said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft, in spite of Abu Dharr's disliking (it)." Abu `Abdullah said, "This is at the time of death or before it if one repents and regrets and says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' He will be forgiven his sins."

Volume 8, Book 76, Number 450:

Narrated Abu Dhar:

Once I went out at night and found Allah's Apostle walking all alone accompanied by nobody, and I thought that perhaps he disliked that someone should accompany him. So I walked in the shade, away from the moonlight, but the Prophet looked behind and saw me and said, "Who is that?" I replied, "Abu Dhar, let Allah get me sacrificed for you!" He said, "O Abu Dhar, come here!" So I accompanied him for a while and then he said, "The rich are in fact the poor (little rewarded) on the Day of Resurrection except him whom Allah gives wealth which he gives (in charity) to his right, left, front and back, and does good deeds with it. I walked with him a little longer. Then he said to me, "Sit down here." So he made me sit in an open space surrounded by rocks, and said to me, "Sit here till I come back to you." He went towards Al-Harra till I could not see him, and he stayed away for a long period, and then I heard him saying, while he was coming, "Even if he had committed theft, and even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse?" When he came, I could not remain patient and asked him, "O Allah's Prophet! Let Allah get me sacrificed for you! Whom were you speaking to by the side of Al-Harra? I did not hear anybody responding to your talk." He said, "It was Gabriel who appeared to me beside Al-Harra and said, 'Give the good news to your followers that whoever dies without having worshipped anything besides Allah, will enter Paradise.' I said, 'O Gabriel! Even if he had committed theft or committed illegal sexual intercourse?' He said, 'Yes.' I said, 'Even if he has committed theft or committed illegal sexual intercourse?' He said, 'Yes.' I said, 'Even if he has committed theft or committed illegal sexual intercourse?' He said, 'Yes.' "

(http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/076.sbt.html#008.076.450)

Regards

Plato

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