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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Jul 23, 2008 at 00:50

Mansoor froths: "................I am still unable to understand that besides the huge efforts made by the enemies of Islam...the horror could not be reduced till now!!" Y

ep, Mansoor, I agree, up until recently the horror of Islam continues. Now, thanks to mass media, the internet and the spectacular but deadly efforts made by the best efforts of those most sincere, fervid Muslims in New York, Beslan, Moscow, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Lebanon, Afganistan, Thailand, Somalia,Chechnya, Bosnia, Kosovo, Paris, the UK, the Phillipines, etc etc etc people all over the western world are wising up including many (now ex-) Muslims. Won't be too long now before everyone realises what an empty vessel Islam truly is and how much criminality under the guise of 'religion' it has been responsible for.

"................The present Muslim era is rightly under great stress. The so called civilized and liberal world is becoming cruel, unjust and harsh over Islam. Unfortunately it is like blowing a bag full of virus...and now attempting to kill every virus individually...which in fact is not possible." Hey, I like your analogy - a virus.

Thanks. Couldn't have picked a better one for describing Islam. We know what virii and other pathogens cause their host organism? Sickness . I guess you could call most of us here on this forum part of the immune system then. ( leukocytes ?) .".........be it a suicide bomber, or any so called terrorist. " No, not so called 'terrorists' - terrorists full stop. "...................T'he perpetual war against Islam has given birth to many who are ready to take the revenge individually, be it a suicide bomber, or any so called terrorist. The revenging thoughts are building day by day. ....... but deep inside the hatred and blood boiling is reaching the zenith. Lava of hatred against anti-Islamic forces would erupt any moment. Many would not agree with me but the truth is that the revolutions occur suddenly but due to long suffocation and suppression." Just looking at all the words there, 'war', 'revenge', 'suicide', 'terrorist', ' hatred', 'blood', 'erupt', 'suffocation', 'suppression'....

Mansoor, I'd say there's a bit of projection /wishful thinking happening here. This comes across in nearly all your posts. You're not a very happy person are you? Lots of unresolved internal conflicts going on inside you aren't there? Enemies hiding around every corner (under rocks and behind trees?) Your thoughts and attitudes seem to be contrary to other Muslim posters here - such as Mr. Khaled who assures us that everything is OK and that there are only a few crackpots in the Muslim world. Maybe Mr. Khaled should realise that it only takes 20 IQ points to make all the difference. I'm sure he and I could sit down and discuss things rationally over a cup of coffee , understand we have major philosophical differences but yet be able share a laugh perhaps over some of the absurdities of our beliefs and the quirks of existence that are common to all people.

Yet, if we drop our IQ scores 15 to 20 points - we run into real trouble. Then the real possibility exists that people are less capable of abstract thought and the ability to step out of their current world-view is diminished. They have less conscience and empathy is either non-existent or totally obscured by irrational emotionality and/or loyalty to spurious causes and corrupt power hungry individuals. It's easy to get people to act on behalf of unreal causes at that stage. The Imams know this and use it to their imagined advantage: If I was an unscrupulous Imam- I could use this for example: "If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)

"........................... Middle East had always been at the tip of the volcano." It's because you hate the Jews . People who have done you personally no harm at all. It's a hatred you've absorbed by osmosis through your association with Islamists and Islamic teachings. e.g. "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51) "Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-) "Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-) The Muslims shall kill the Jews to the point that the Jew shall hide behind a big rock or a tree and the rock or tree shall call on the Muslim saying: hey, O Muslim there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him, except the Gharqad tree which will not say, for it is the tree of Jews." (Sahih Bukhari 004.52.176) "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

" .............Who knows this volcano wle ould vanish the tiny but irritating trouble of Israel once and for all." Why so irritating? There's only 10 million or so Jews - they don't other me one bit. There's more than enough land for everyone in the Middle East - don't they teach you to share in the maddrassas? "........... Let's see what will happen in coming years....the adventure against Iran...would soon result in a never ending catastrophe. This time it will be a bigger Holocaust...mind you..!!!" No stopping mania is there? ...

The thing is - it's what you're reading that causes so much strife i your life - but you're entirely unaware of it - and blame everyone and everything else for how unhapy you feel. You're like an alcoholic - but your addiction is to aniquated, foreign supremacist beliefs. e.g. "Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29) "Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-) "Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)

Well, keep fighting Mansoor, keep believing what you believe, and see how happy you end up. One thing is 100% certain - you won't get your green cushions and dark-eyed virgins.

Submitting....

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