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Reader comment on item: Canadian Islamists host [William W. Baker,] a neo-Nazi

Submitted by Peter J. Herz (Taiwan), Jan 11, 2004 at 08:17

As I wrote earlier, shame on Dr. Schuller for hiring a guy like Baker, although I'll note Schuller later fired the guy. However, as I followed your links to Campus Watch's article on Baker, I noticed something very interesting:

"Baker's lectures at Crystal Cathedral so blatantly ignored the divinity of Jesus that it offended several moderate Protestant pastors who attended."[ Campus watch, quoting the journalist Brin].

If this is indeed good, accurate reporting, it shows Baker not as a Christian "fundamentalist", but a Christian theological "moderate" with extremist views on race--and Campus Watch is to be commended for associating him with the "fringe" rather than Christian "fundamentalism". The deity of Christ has been a central dogma of Christianity since the beginning; is central to the historic creeds; and was insisted on by the early 20th century Protestant fundamentalists as one of the non-negotiable fundamentals. Since Schuller sometimes identifies himself as a "Calvinist", it is worth noting that Michael Servetus got burned at the stake in 16th century Geneva (by the city fathers, who had just barely approved Calvin's return from exile in Strasbourg; not by Calvin, who was only a theological "expert witness" at the trial) for his denial of the deity of Christ.

Further, it may well be that the combination of Baker's ignoring the deity of Christ, as much as his hatred for Jews, might be the aspect that makes him palatable to certain Islamic groups.

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FAU Muslim Students to host Siraj Wahhaj Jan 22 [166 words]EmilyJan 20, 2005 00:46
Canadian Islamists host a neo-Nazi [266 words]S.C.PandaJan 24, 2004 05:02
Free Speech? For whom? [169 words]VincentJan 16, 2004 04:57
Strange Bed Fellows 2 [106 words]Darwin BarrettJan 12, 2004 17:43
⇒ Baker and Christianity [236 words]Peter J. HerzJan 11, 2004 08:17
Hard left university entrenchment [181 words]DavidJan 11, 2004 07:58
The religion of peace strikes again in Canada [139 words]Arlinda DeAngelisJan 10, 2004 19:29
We Have To Be Involved [94 words]Ruth LowryJan 9, 2004 18:09
Strange Bedfellows? [80 words]Darwin BarrettJan 8, 2004 19:56
Radical Islam [45 words]Jeff RobbinsJan 8, 2004 13:38
Too much Accommodation in the Name of Pluralism/Diversity [332 words]MimiJan 8, 2004 10:27
Don't stop your exposes of anti-semitic actions by fundamentalist moslems all over the world. [62 words]Alan A. GrosserJan 8, 2004 01:32
article in BC Muslim newspaper [60 words]Saly RogowJan 7, 2004 19:00
More of the same lies [19 words]Tony LJan 7, 2004 16:47
Birds of a feather... Unite in Hatred [112 words]FenixJan 7, 2004 14:48
Outrageous! [292 words]Ali HassanJan 7, 2004 13:16
Canada - a threat? [65 words]Vijay DandapaniJan 7, 2004 12:27
Belgian Schadenfreude and Baker [212 words]Peter J. HerzJan 7, 2004 09:32

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