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The Righteous in His Sight Have Nothing to Fear - He Forbids Only Those Who Seek To Controvert His Word

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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), May 22, 2008 at 17:46

Let us make one thing plain. Those who do not believe in the Hebrew Holy Scriptures, the Old or New Testament, or in the Person of Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ, may live their lives independent of the verses contained therein, to a point. Though one may not believe in these writings, and may take some mortal solace that they do not have to, eventually a reckoning based on the truth of the Holy Bible does come. But let us look at what was presented here.

I am sorry to disagree with you for many reasons. (I am sorry that you do, too.)

1) We believe there was a holy Bible sent by God to Jesus and we believe there is a holy Torah sent to Moses. Bu the Jews forged the Torah and the torah today is not the same as was revealed on Moses and the Bible was forged by the Jews and many Christians believe that the Bible is not the word of God but the writings of four apostles. (It is written that the devils believe, and tremble, and they should, for the Hebrew writings are Holy. As to being forged, many have tried to claim such, going back hundreds/thousands of years, yet no verifiable authentication of such have overpowered the truth of the WORD of the LORD.)

2) The bible and the Torah have many mistakes in them (drastical mistakes) shows that they are not correct. (Demonstrate the scholarship of such things by independent scholarship that can be verified by legitimate believers for this to be correct.)

3) We believe in Jesus the extraordinary Prophet, but we don't believe that he is God or son of God. the Jews call themselves sons of God. so the use of SON in that age is not what you think. We believe that he had extraordinary miracles and also we believe that Mohammad had miracles too on this earth. But all miracles of Jesus and Mohammad are gone and have no trace anymore EXCEPT for one. THE QURAN a living miracle until today. I can write volumes about the miracles in the Quran. latest discovery on how the pyramids were built. (This is a matter of FAITH, and cannot be argued except in faith. Only those of true faith are truly sons. As to what this reader thinks, he thinks it is not wise to mess with eternal things not in the power of mere mortals to mess with. The Bible ascribes miracles to other besides the Savior, even the Adversary, but those associated with the Savior were emblems to the Jews of His authenticity as HaMashiach for them to believe, and as a witness of the same to believers today. For those who do not have that faith, by your own admission, they will have no value to you.)

4) Jesus himself never said that he is a God or said to his people to worhship him. He always mentioned worhship the Father. (Gospel of John 10:31)

5) Jesus have referred to himself as son of man too. (Name given by the prophets to identify HaMashiach, Daniel 7:13.)

6) I can write volumes of errors or wrong beliefs in the bible until the ink dries out. (This the claim of so many, -like the Prophet of Islam- over the thousands of years who determined not to believe and wanted to convince others not to do so either. Again, a matter of faith.)

7) So to believe blindly without questioning will leave the person closed to himself and his belief and never see the truth.(This reader's faith is not blind, for the Holy Scriptures provides the light through the WORD of the LORD-Psalm 119:105.)

We have had many prophecies by Prophet Mohammad, and they came true, and we are still waiting for other prophecies to be fullfilled. and one of them the distruction of the jewish state. (Cite that reference, tie it in with the previous destruction of Jerusalem in AD71, -sorry 71CE for those so disposed-and tell us how Hamas/Hizbollah/Syria/Russia/Libya/Turkey and others named in the Hebrew Holy Scriptures are going to do it, then there is something to wonder about. But the Quran does not cannot make that claim. Also, cite the percentage of completed predictions if such statistics available, or where in the Quran did the Islamic Prophet say that Jerusalem would be taken from Islam, or that Israel will rise as a nation again.)

8) I have proof that it is forged and not the correct bible that jesus had received from his Lord.(See item 6 above-and to correct the position of Jesus Christ again, He is the WORD; see the Gospel of John, Chapter 1.)

9) God can never be a liar nor the Prohpets are (God forbid) far from the truth. but also God never said what you say, and Jesus never said what you say. that is the difference between us. (The first part is correct, and as the prophets who spoke as directed by the WORD of the LORD, this is true as well, but start with actually reading the Gospel of John first, then Matthew, Mark, and Luke, and you will see that it is written that Jesus Christ DID actually say the things I have noted and are the very reasons for my believing. These are words of the WORD that cannot be taken away, for they are words of eternal life.)

I have send many emails on this forum about why we think the bible is not right. look them up under sTs ...(Just as it is true that someone does not want to believe in the Hebrew Holy Scriptures is not going to want them validated-just like the Islamic Prophet-does not mean the Word of Almighty God is void. See Isaiah55:6-12:

Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return to the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:So shall my word be that proceedeth from my mouth: it shall not return to me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] for which I sent it. For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap [their] hands.

We who are empowered by our faith in Jesus Christ have all the assurances necessary that He is going to keep His WORD, and He forbids only those who seek to controvert it.

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