exemplify the positive
Reader comment on item: Responding to Joshua Muravchik about "Moderate Islamists"
in response to reader comment: "Doing good" without objective perspective

Submitted by trans-parere (Canada), May 9, 2008 at 19:10

Dear Jennifer

Excuses are not reasons [nor reasonable], they're justifications. Every religion, culture and nation excuses the evil they do/did to justify the good they have done or hope to do. Every culture has it's story of oppressing and being in turn oppressed. The one they give the most air time to is the one that garners them the most of whatever at that moment they are seeking.

There are some truly evil individuals from every culture in this world. Yet those 'sociopaths' for lack of a better word, are not the norm nor by any account the majority to be found in any culture, nation or religion. Most people want to be good and do good and intimidation is not necessary. The answer has always been leadership.

Right now due to having more work than citizens to do the work. Which is thanks to our social freedoms and the value given the individual. For it is the individual and their initiative we we have to thank for our prosperity. Our immigration policies have been "liberalised" to fill the demand, and many an uneducated, socially ignorant, and easily manipulated person is coming to a new country, a new society, a new reality really, in terms of rights and freedoms, and most of these people want to fit in and become a part of our nations. HOWEVER. There are those the like of Sheik Hilali in Australia. Abu Izzadeen, Omar Bakri and Anjem Choudary in the U.K. Who use their religion to oppress those new comers and to play on their ignorance and insecurity being in a new environment. In the United States it's even more insidious because there Moslem's are organised against integration and are using every legal recourse to maintain their "village" considering many Moslem immigrants have come from towns more than from countries.

Use this article as an example. http://worlddefensereview.com/esman050808.shtml

What ever authority they had "at home" is being recreated and or upheld. "Village" members coming into the homes of what are now essentially American citizens and dictating their behavior and religious observance. What chance do these people have if we can not defend them from the evil nature of the few among them who are motivated for reasons of religious/cultural/powermongering to cling to their little fascist tribal empire. And to make matters even worse we have these Christian imbeciles running off at the mouth crying how they ought to convert to Christianity. Nice job. That makes the Moslem's more defensive and more insecure and drives them into the arms of their fellow Moslem oppressors.

We really need to go after the institution of Islam where it is used to oppress the Moslem individual in our societies. We must act as protector until Islam is sufficiently reformed to individual rights and be diligent in exercising the rule of law of which our democracies stand on. Religious law should not be allowed for one moment to supplant civil and criminal law. And we definitely need a law that protects the individual from evangelism/proselytism like they have in Greece. That alone would relieve much of the tension between peoples of differing faiths, the agnostics and the atheist.

(I believe how "natural" depends on self-circumstance; more often than not, this includes alterior motive, gulit and/or pretension)
I'm sorry to see that your sense of the "natural goodness" of man is so negative and based on mans negative traits rather on man's positive traits.

I always read your posts. I know at heart you're a good person.

Cheers

trans-parere

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